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0 pointsjbverschoor3y ago0 comments

Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display. Also, scrolling feels different. Different speed, different acceleration.

Still doesn't feel native at all.

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dilap3y ago· 2 in thread

> Nope, not here. No bouncing, maybe due to 'no animation settings' in display

Where's that setting?

> Different speed, different acceleration.

Huh, interesting! Are you mouse or trackpad? I'm comparing side-by-side on trackpad and I can't detect any difference. If I flick the trackpad at the same speed they will both land roughly in the same place on the page, and the variation, as near as I can tell, is because of variations in my flick speed.

In both Safari and Firefox I find it basically effortless to scroll exactly where I want to. (This was emphatically not true for me in previous versions of Firefox.) Feels totally natural. Though maybe there is a difference I'm just not sensitive enough to detect!

FWIW, I'm on Firefox 104.0.2, macOS 12.5.1, MB Pro / M1 Max.

(Spark, which is a supposedly-native email app, somehow has weirder feeling scrolling to me than Firefox.)

jbverschoorOP3y ago

Reduce Motion in display or accessibility settings I think it’s called.

I’m on M1. Just updated FF from the menu.

I’m using the trackpad, but again, I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration.

dilap3y ago

Huh, yeah, turning on "Reduce motion" does indeed disable bounce scroll in Firefox. Definitely a strange choice on their part! (It doesn't affect it in other apps.)

> I changed my system settings, as I don’t like the default speed and acceleration

I see, that could make sense, if Safari was honoring those changes and Firefox wasn't, in some way. I've got mostly stock settings (slightly bumped up speed and three-finger drag) and it feels spot-on.

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aeharding3y ago

Something must be wrong on your machine. On my Mac Mini and Air (m1) Firefox scrolling is extremely smooth and feels much more native than Chrome. Overscrolling has worked great since they revamped the engine, even in nested scroll views!

Firefox's scrolling engine is so good, CSS scroll snapping feel more native than Safari's implementation (with chrome feeling the least native - too little friction and takes too long to stop moving on large scroll snap areas) [1].

[1] https://ppg.report/41.876,-87.624 for example of CSS scroll snapping that performs best on Firefox on Mac

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