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0 pointsYizahi3y ago0 comments

Oil, filters and work on them is pricy at the official dealers (if you care about warranty). Also more failure points - turbines, injectors, gas pump, exhaust, gearbox, oiling system in general. Just a single gearbox or turbine failure can cost thousands. EVs are really cheaper in general, however you compare.

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lotsofpulp3y ago· 5 in thread

Where does getting an oil filter changed by a non dealer void the warranty?

Oil/air filters and brakes are $50 and $500 at most. Everything else is pretty reliable for a couple hundred thousand miles assuming a decent brand car like Toyota or Honda.

At US gas prices, I have yet to see an EV be shown to be a better value than a car/minivan/SUV/pickup truck, especially if driving 10k miles or less per year. The upfront cost on EVs is huge, and many alternatives such as minivans do not even exist yet.

YizahiOP3y ago

I need to do yearly maintenance at the dealer (or if I exceed some fixed mileage before that), they do the oil change in the course of that. If I would skip yearly maintenance the warranty is voided.

PS: that's for Mazda car.

sokoloff3y ago

That’s definitely not the case in the US (see Magnuson-Moss 1975) and many other countries have similar laws.

ZeroGravitas3y ago

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.htm

10K miles or less is a bit of an outlier.

lotsofpulp3y ago

I would not be able to discern 10k miles or less for a car is an outlier from those data points, it does not say anything about the underlying distribution.

Not to mention the whole female column is pretty much 10k and below, as well as men over 65.

This is a little bit better breakdown, but I could find miles driven by decile. I would assume it greatly differs by location and is greatly skewer by people who drive a lot.

https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-dri...

Either way, the purpose of the miles driven per year in cost calculations is because after a certain amount of miles, the up front higher cost of electric is offset by lower per mile costs of driving electric. Assuming fuel costs stay the same, then people who drive less have less incentive to go electric.

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viraptor3y ago

It's not that any work voids the warranty, but for example I got extra 2 years warranty by servicing at the official dealer rather than somewhere else.

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