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0 pointsgkoberger3y ago0 comments

For just the hosting, maybe. But there's so much more Heroku does, from spinning up test environments for PRs to storing secret keys (across different repos) to being a CI to monitoring to... so so much more.

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MuffinFlavored3y ago

> from spinning up test environments for PRs

Hooking up some kind of CI/CD to GitHub through webhooks

> storing secret keys

Built into GitHub (or an instance of Hashicorp Vault which can be hosted for free)

> to monitoring

Can run your own Grafana/Promtheus

Obviously there's a cost running all of this yourself as opposed to just paying them to do it. Just making sure I wasn't missing something obvious tradeoff wise between "our company would rather pay somebody to manage all of this for us"

gkobergerOP3y ago

I think you just proved my point, no? I don't want to do any of this; I want to pay someone to do it.

laundermaf3y ago

Yeah of course you can do it all by yourself. You just need a server online.

Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops.

MuffinFlavored3y ago

> Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops.

Which they know, and can charge you accordingly for, right?

If a single sysop engineer cost $100k/yr (without anybody managing them), they can charge you $50k/yr to replace them and it'd still be a steal, right?

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MuffinFlavored3y ago

> from spinning up test environments for PRs

Hooking up some kind of CI/CD to GitHub through webhooks

> storing secret keys

Built into GitHub (or an instance of Hashicorp Vault which can be hosted for free)

> to monitoring

Can run your own Grafana/Promtheus

gkobergerOP3y ago

I think you just proved my point, no? I don't want to do any of this; I want to pay someone to do it.

laundermaf3y ago

Yeah of course you can do it all by yourself. You just need a server online.

Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops.

MuffinFlavored3y ago

> Services like Herokus are useful because they save hundreds of hours of sysops.

Which they know, and can charge you accordingly for, right?

If a single sysop engineer cost $100k/yr (without anybody managing them), they can charge you $50k/yr to replace them and it'd still be a steal, right?

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