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0 pointsNotTameAntelope3y ago0 comments

This just sounds like you don't like TF, and no matter how well executed this tool would be, you'd always criticize it for using TF.

I wouldn't really call that feedback, just a luddite-esque bias on your part.

I'm pattern matching your "feedback" as "New thing scary, don't use!"

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latchkey3y ago

Correct, I don't like TF, based on some real world experience using it.

I also think it is fair to say that my complaint is valid.

Luddite? The 20k+ servers that I manage disagree with you. =)

NotTameAntelopeOP3y ago

You even admit you haven't used TF in a long time, and when you did use TF it hadn't been 1.0 yet, which means you should fully expect breaking changes to take place.

In no way is your complaint valid for a technology that hadn't even been released yet, and you should know that.

And a "luddite" is just "a person opposed to new technology or ways of working." How many servers you do or don't manage is totally irrelevant to that. Terraform is new, you dislike it because it's new (my guess), therefore you are a luddite.

Did you think I was claiming you belonged to the group of 19th century English mill workers who destroyed factory machinery to protest those machines taking your job?

latchkey3y ago

fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

NotTameAntelopeOP3y ago

Yes shame on you for not realizing a 0.x versioned technology would make breaking changes on minor version updates.

Given:

1) Terraform uses Semantic Versioning [0]

2) Semantic Versioning specifically states that 0.x APIs are not stable [1]

Therefore:

Your complaint that a 0.x versioned tool wasn't stable is not valid.

Conjecture:

Your complaint exists as an excuse to remain ignorant of a new tool or technology simply because it is new. This makes you a luddite. [2]

[0] https://www.terraform.io/plugin/sdkv2/best-practices/version...

[1] https://semver.org/#spec-item-4

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+luddite

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latchkey3y ago

Correct, I don't like TF, based on some real world experience using it.

I also think it is fair to say that my complaint is valid.

Luddite? The 20k+ servers that I manage disagree with you. =)

NotTameAntelopeOP3y ago

You even admit you haven't used TF in a long time, and when you did use TF it hadn't been 1.0 yet, which means you should fully expect breaking changes to take place.

In no way is your complaint valid for a technology that hadn't even been released yet, and you should know that.

Did you think I was claiming you belonged to the group of 19th century English mill workers who destroyed factory machinery to protest those machines taking your job?

latchkey3y ago

fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

NotTameAntelopeOP3y ago

Yes shame on you for not realizing a 0.x versioned technology would make breaking changes on minor version updates.

Given:

1) Terraform uses Semantic Versioning [0]

2) Semantic Versioning specifically states that 0.x APIs are not stable [1]

Therefore:

Your complaint that a 0.x versioned tool wasn't stable is not valid.

Conjecture:

Your complaint exists as an excuse to remain ignorant of a new tool or technology simply because it is new. This makes you a luddite. [2]

[0] https://www.terraform.io/plugin/sdkv2/best-practices/version...

[1] https://semver.org/#spec-item-4

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+luddite

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