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Population control? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_population_planning

We will have no choice eventually.

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philwelch3y ago· 3 in thread

If we have to introduce population control it will be to increase the population. All developed countries are below replacement.

CalRobert3y ago

Is that bad? Surely we can manage with fewer than 8 billion people. A gradual reduction should be welcomed.

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benstrumental3y ago

Until per capita carbon emissions are below zero, falling population is a good thing.

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Weatherweathe3y ago

And yet there is housing crisis almosy everywhere, prob govs will have to force people to move out from the big cities

CoastalCoder3y ago· 3 in thread

I agree that population control mostly solves our environmental issues.

But I don't trust humans to make such collective sacrifices willingly. We're just too lazy, stupid, and selfish.

I think the more likely outcome is that reality will control our population for us, via drought, famine, war, and epidemic.

bilsbie3y ago

The 1700s called. They want their Malthusian catastrophe back.

astrange3y ago

Degrowth is false. If we lost population, the environment would get worse - as we wouldn't be able to maintain modern technology, we'd go back to the real bad stuff like coal and wood burning.

The US's total CO2 emissions have been going down for a decade or two now, even after population growth. And no, it's not because we outsourced them.

656565656565OP3y ago

I mostly agree, I added purely based on my opinion of the original posters ask

collegeburner3y ago· 1 in thread

Uhh fuck that (pun not intended). We are not the problem, America has plenty of space, there is no need. SE Asia is stabilizing. Africa has a lot of birth but also a lot of space left.

There will probably be some places with "natural" population control from lack of food or from disease bht that doesn't mean "we" have to do anything.

You def can't be pro-choice or anti-fascist then support population control.

656565656565OP3y ago

I never mentioned pro-choice or my stance on it or population control. For the record I support choice. I added the topic purely in response to the OP ask.

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m1013y ago

The problem that we should be talking about is the exact opposite.

bilsbie3y ago

You scare me.

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12 comments · 5 top-level

philwelch3y ago· 3 in thread

If we have to introduce population control it will be to increase the population. All developed countries are below replacement.

CalRobert3y ago

Is that bad? Surely we can manage with fewer than 8 billion people. A gradual reduction should be welcomed.

2 more replies

benstrumental3y ago

Until per capita carbon emissions are below zero, falling population is a good thing.

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Weatherweathe3y ago

And yet there is housing crisis almosy everywhere, prob govs will have to force people to move out from the big cities

CoastalCoder3y ago· 3 in thread

I agree that population control mostly solves our environmental issues.

But I don't trust humans to make such collective sacrifices willingly. We're just too lazy, stupid, and selfish.

I think the more likely outcome is that reality will control our population for us, via drought, famine, war, and epidemic.

bilsbie3y ago

The 1700s called. They want their Malthusian catastrophe back.

astrange3y ago

Degrowth is false. If we lost population, the environment would get worse - as we wouldn't be able to maintain modern technology, we'd go back to the real bad stuff like coal and wood burning.

The US's total CO2 emissions have been going down for a decade or two now, even after population growth. And no, it's not because we outsourced them.

656565656565OP3y ago

I mostly agree, I added purely based on my opinion of the original posters ask

collegeburner3y ago· 1 in thread

Uhh fuck that (pun not intended). We are not the problem, America has plenty of space, there is no need. SE Asia is stabilizing. Africa has a lot of birth but also a lot of space left.

There will probably be some places with "natural" population control from lack of food or from disease bht that doesn't mean "we" have to do anything.

You def can't be pro-choice or anti-fascist then support population control.

656565656565OP3y ago

I never mentioned pro-choice or my stance on it or population control. For the record I support choice. I added the topic purely in response to the OP ask.

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m1013y ago

The problem that we should be talking about is the exact opposite.

bilsbie3y ago

You scare me.

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