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0 pointsLesZedCB3y ago0 comments

growing fruits is a wildly complex process, fermentations are an Astoundingly complex process, barrel aging is a surprisingly complex process. myriad things in each step can and do go very wrong. experts are absolutely able to taste fruit defects and fermentation defects.

just because you can't doesn't mean the differences aren't there and throws away a massive tradition of expertise and artistic direction, and is wildly arrogant. obviously, drink what you enjoy. most folks enjoy barefoot and folgers alike. though they are both commodity wine/coffee that are meant to appeal to "mass market".

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lisper3y ago

> just because you can't doesn't mean the differences aren't there

But that's the point: we could tell the difference. We just all preferred the Barefoot when we didn't know what we were drinking.

Nowadays my tastes have evolved beyond Barefoot. But there isn't anything wrong with you if you just happen not to like Chateau Petrus.

LesZedCBOP3y ago

right, and i completely agree on that point.

the counter-point is that everybody uses the "taste is subjective" as a bludgeon for there being not quantifiable difference in quality between offerings.

lisper3y ago

Of course there are differences. But, with a very few exceptions, none of those differences make one product objectively better than the others.

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lisper3y ago

> just because you can't doesn't mean the differences aren't there

But that's the point: we could tell the difference. We just all preferred the Barefoot when we didn't know what we were drinking.

Nowadays my tastes have evolved beyond Barefoot. But there isn't anything wrong with you if you just happen not to like Chateau Petrus.

LesZedCBOP3y ago

right, and i completely agree on that point.

the counter-point is that everybody uses the "taste is subjective" as a bludgeon for there being not quantifiable difference in quality between offerings.

lisper3y ago

Of course there are differences. But, with a very few exceptions, none of those differences make one product objectively better than the others.

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