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0 pointsmynameisvlad3y ago0 comments

You're free to create your own project with your own name and have it compete on the free market for dominance. I don't get this criticism at all. Sure, it could be simpler, but it's A. Not your project, so who are you to say how to name it and B. Rust developers clearly understand what they're used for considering they're popular enough to be brought up here.

And unless you're actively developing in Rust, why would some other people's choice of naming their projects in a language and tool chain you don't ever plan on using be such a big deal?

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bowsamic3y ago· 5 in thread

You can say this about literally any criticism ever. I hate it and it blows chunks. It is the ultimate libertarian way of striking down any discussion: do not criticise, even in any small way, because it's a free market and you can just make another one, so never EVER even THINK of discussing anything.

I'm not saying that there should be some kind of totalitarian regime that enforces naming, I'm simply saying that yeah it kinda sucks that Rust devs tend towards cutesy names over ones that convey functionality.

This just seems like you're getting weirdly offended for no reason. Not everything is some kind of attack on individual agency. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me remarking on the state of Rust naming. The fact that you are conflating it to be a "big deal", which I never said it was, just seems like bad faith arguing me. This is just not something to get so offended over.

mynameisvladOP3y ago

> I'm simply saying that yeah it kinda sucks that Rust devs tend towards cutesy names over ones that convey functionality.

Are you using Rust? If not, why does it matter what they choose to name their libraries. This is my entire point, you're coming in as an outsider criticizing something that is clearly not a problem to Rust devs.

If actual Rust developers are using them to the point where they're popular enough to gain (unwarranted, imo) criticism, then clearly they're working, silly name and all.

It's almost as if people care more about what the function a package provides rather than its name.

geodel3y ago

Why the hell one has to use Rust to comment on library name? Is there some license requirement for comments on Rust stuff? It's not like that people go on GitHub and tell authors that their project names are silly and need to be changed.

This is exactly cultish thing about Rust, that unless someone is praising Rust, they are free to keep their mouth shut.

bowsamic3y ago

I'm not an outsider, I have used rust before, though not extensively, not that this matters at all. An active rust developer has no more permission to criticise something about the rust ecosystem than someone new to rust

mynameisvladOP3y ago

But it does matter. If the people actively using the packages aren't complaining, then there isn't really a problem.

You've hyperfocused so much on my "criticism of your criticism" and the permissibility behind it that you chose to ignore the actual criticism I laid down.

I'm not continuing this either way since I've said my piece. Maybe step back and actually read my comments rather than focusing on me criticizing your critique.

Also, pot calling the kettle black. You spent an entire comment being offended over my critique.

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mxben3y ago

> do not criticise

Nobody said that. Of course you can criticize. But be aware that your criticism itself could be subject to criticism.

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saagarjha3y ago

Don't Rust crates go in a global namespace? In that case using up common or short names is definitely something I get to care about.

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bowsamic3y ago· 5 in thread

mynameisvladOP3y ago

> I'm simply saying that yeah it kinda sucks that Rust devs tend towards cutesy names over ones that convey functionality.

If actual Rust developers are using them to the point where they're popular enough to gain (unwarranted, imo) criticism, then clearly they're working, silly name and all.

It's almost as if people care more about what the function a package provides rather than its name.

geodel3y ago

This is exactly cultish thing about Rust, that unless someone is praising Rust, they are free to keep their mouth shut.

bowsamic3y ago

mynameisvladOP3y ago

But it does matter. If the people actively using the packages aren't complaining, then there isn't really a problem.

You've hyperfocused so much on my "criticism of your criticism" and the permissibility behind it that you chose to ignore the actual criticism I laid down.

I'm not continuing this either way since I've said my piece. Maybe step back and actually read my comments rather than focusing on me criticizing your critique.

Also, pot calling the kettle black. You spent an entire comment being offended over my critique.

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mxben3y ago

> do not criticise

Nobody said that. Of course you can criticize. But be aware that your criticism itself could be subject to criticism.

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saagarjha3y ago

Don't Rust crates go in a global namespace? In that case using up common or short names is definitely something I get to care about.

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