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0 pointsjustapassenger3y ago0 comments

It’s naive to call yourself beta tester. People who have access to beta are basically just a part of PR exercise by Tesla, that tries to hide lack of meaningful progress towards multiple missed deadlines.

You aren’t beta testing complex automation system that’s operating on public roads. To do any meaningful testing you should have defined operation domain, specific behaviors to test, direct line to the engineering team to report issues, etc, etc.

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zarzavat3y ago· 2 in thread

You're thinking of QA testing. Beta testing is the final stage of testing before release and aims to test the system in as close as realistic environment as possible - that's why betas are often seeded to the general public, you want to find out if your system doesn't work on some configuration or circumstances that you didn't anticipate in internal testing. Better to have it fail for a limited number of users who signed up for that possibility than to have to do a Cyberpunk style recall.

formerkrogemp3y ago

> You're thinking of QA testing. Beta testing is the final stage of testing before release and aims to test the system in as close as realistic environment as possible - that's why betas are often seeded to the general public, you want to find out if your system doesn't work on some configuration or circumstances that you didn't anticipate in internal testing.

I'm thinking of being an unwitting test crash dummy on public roads and sidewalks for "Full Self Driving". They just slap the binding legal agreements and waivers on their drivers, but it is tantamount to fraud. I'd rather this didn't exist on public roads in such numbers, and that people don't have to pay to be free Tesla drivers, beta testers, and data points instead of being considered people.

justapassengerOP3y ago

QA testing doesn't exist for FSD. And you're applying standards used to test apps to share dickpics to a software that's moving killing machines in shared environment with other people.

It's not acceptable to have it fail for limited number of users. As my kid who may get killed by the failure didn't sign up for it.

How would you feel if this was a standard for aircrafts? "Let's just push this change to a small portion of the fleet, and boy, if that plane crashes, it's soooo much better if all our planes would crash. High five, where's my bonus?!".

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