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0 pointsmnutt14y ago0 comments

The parent is referring to a new user trying to set up postgres.

And in the above Linux networking example, this response is analogous to the person who says "But I wrote my own scripts to fix my ethernet configuration, I don't see what the big deal is!"

Edit: That came off a bit harsh. I just don't think the fact that it's not a hassle for us means it's not a hassle for other people. And I don't think that mongo's easy configuration means that it should be used over postgres in all cases, just that postgres should take notice that people like mongo's easy configuration and step up their game in that department.

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einhverfr14y ago· 1 in thread

yum install postgresql-server

service postgresql initdb

service postgresql start

sudo -u postgres psql .....

postgres=#.....

If all you are doing is writing code, that's sufficient on an rpm based platform. On Debian, use apt-get instead. On Windows use the 1 click installer.

PostgreSQL comes with a default user and a default database, so the criticism on this thread is a bit..... incorrect.

Now it is true you have to set up a system user if you are compiling PostgreSQL from source. However, that's really optional in most cases unless the code you are writing is, well, a patch to PostgreSQL.......

nakkiel14y ago

Exactly what I meant. In debian, there is no "initdb" step and the daemon is started when it's installed.

Anyway, people who call themselves ops or devs ought to be able to do that sort of 3 lines operations.

As I said before, it happens once in your product's dev/op lifetime.

nakkiel14y ago

It didn't came harsh.

I use no script whatsoever and the complication . For a dev environment, I go like this:

  $ sudo su - postgres
  $ createuser -s nakkiel

And again, no further operation is required until you install a new OS on your machine.

I really think we're missing the point anyway. The complicated things, and Mongo's advantage, only really come later when it's time to create a database and tables and columns and indexes..

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einhverfr14y ago· 1 in thread

yum install postgresql-server

service postgresql initdb

service postgresql start

sudo -u postgres psql .....

postgres=#.....

If all you are doing is writing code, that's sufficient on an rpm based platform. On Debian, use apt-get instead. On Windows use the 1 click installer.

PostgreSQL comes with a default user and a default database, so the criticism on this thread is a bit..... incorrect.

nakkiel14y ago

Exactly what I meant. In debian, there is no "initdb" step and the daemon is started when it's installed.

Anyway, people who call themselves ops or devs ought to be able to do that sort of 3 lines operations.

As I said before, it happens once in your product's dev/op lifetime.

nakkiel14y ago

It didn't came harsh.

I use no script whatsoever and the complication . For a dev environment, I go like this:

  $ sudo su - postgres
  $ createuser -s nakkiel

And again, no further operation is required until you install a new OS on your machine.

I really think we're missing the point anyway. The complicated things, and Mongo's advantage, only really come later when it's time to create a database and tables and columns and indexes..

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse