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0 pointsmarcellus233y ago0 comments

It isn't hidden behind a keyboard shortcut. CMD+Shift+5 exposes the full screenshot UI, and under the clearly-named Options button is a menu that lets you pick the clipboard as the place to save.

Holding CTRL is just a... well... "shortcut" for that.

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LocalPCGuy3y ago

That is literally the definition of "hidden behind a keyboard shortcut" - you have to be told or lookup CMD+Shift-5 before you can get to the full screenshot UI. It's been a while since I first used MacOS, but I don't remember it telling me how to do that.

CharlesW3y ago

> That is literally the definition of "hidden behind a keyboard shortcut" - you have to be told or lookup CMD+Shift-5 before you can get to the full screenshot UI.

Or more likely, new users search for "screenshot" in Spotlight the first few times, and if they do this enough maybe Google "mac screenshot shortcuts" (which leads them to https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201361).

LocalPCGuy3y ago

That's fair, particularly the "Googling it" part. Still don't think it falls under "intuitive" - it's not something I'd just try or figure out without somehow looking it up.

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eyelidlessness3y ago

There’s also just an app you can launch like any other, and it works exactly the same way, no keyboard shortcuts necessary.

filoleg3y ago

> you have to be told or lookup CMD+Shift-5 before you can get to the full screenshot UI

No, you don't. You can either search in Spotlight or go to Apps->Utilities, and it is there, along with activity monitor(aka task manager)/terminal/etc.

hbn3y ago

How do you want them to inform you other than RTFM and word of mouth?

Do you want constant buttons on screen at all times for every possible OS-level functionality?

nsonha3y ago

are you not familiar with the concept of onboarding? Many websites and apps have this tour thing that highlight things that user haven't used, when appropriate.

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LocalPCGuy3y ago

I didn't give any value judgement to it and I don't have any suggestions as I really haven't spent a lot of time on that problem space. If I become an OS developer I'll give that problem some thought. But the idea that Mac is somehow "intuitive" is laughable, IMO (I say that as someone who has used a wide variety of computer OSes since the 80s).

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wasyl3y ago

I agree with parent, for example even after pressing cmd+shift+5 there's no indicator or hint that you can press `space` to capture a single window. I don't see how any user would discover that functionality, and I regularly see people surprised they can do that here on HN.

Discoverability on macos is atrocious, and even after few years on it I sometimes struggle with basic things

marcellus23OP3y ago

But there's a button for "Capture Selected Window".

nsonha3y ago

I use the non-UI snapshot feature a lot more often than video capture so didn't realize that. I guess it was just a more general comment that comes from things like the switching window/app hotkeys. In this instance, there is another issue with finding out holding CTRL does what it does.

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LocalPCGuy3y ago

CharlesW3y ago

> That is literally the definition of "hidden behind a keyboard shortcut" - you have to be told or lookup CMD+Shift-5 before you can get to the full screenshot UI.

LocalPCGuy3y ago

That's fair, particularly the "Googling it" part. Still don't think it falls under "intuitive" - it's not something I'd just try or figure out without somehow looking it up.

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eyelidlessness3y ago

There’s also just an app you can launch like any other, and it works exactly the same way, no keyboard shortcuts necessary.

filoleg3y ago

> you have to be told or lookup CMD+Shift-5 before you can get to the full screenshot UI

No, you don't. You can either search in Spotlight or go to Apps->Utilities, and it is there, along with activity monitor(aka task manager)/terminal/etc.

hbn3y ago

How do you want them to inform you other than RTFM and word of mouth?

Do you want constant buttons on screen at all times for every possible OS-level functionality?

nsonha3y ago

are you not familiar with the concept of onboarding? Many websites and apps have this tour thing that highlight things that user haven't used, when appropriate.

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LocalPCGuy3y ago

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wasyl3y ago

Discoverability on macos is atrocious, and even after few years on it I sometimes struggle with basic things

marcellus23OP3y ago

But there's a button for "Capture Selected Window".

nsonha3y ago

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