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0 pointswillis9363y ago0 comments

Dozens of instances of a C GUI can launch in the time it takes to launch a hello world python program.

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Yes but what kind of comparison is that: 1. How often do you need to execute 1000 GUI instances? 2. How often do you need to print "hello world"?

The right tool for the right job.

willis936OP3y ago

This is a discussion about computers being slow. As in a person asks a computer to do something and the human waits while the computer does it.

So python isn't the right tool for any job that involves human interaction.

Nihilartikel3y ago

Python _is_ slow, but even back in 2006 on a pentium 4 I had no problem using it with PyGame to build a smooth 60fps rtype style shooter for a coding challenge.

One just has to not do anything dumb in the render loop and it's plenty responsive.

Of course, if you're going to interactively process a 50mb csv or something... But even then pandas is faster.

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geysersam3y ago

Nah that's too general. A lot of website/app backends use Django or Fastapi and they work fine. Many more use PHP, also not a language famed for extreme performance.

It depends on the application. Personally I wouldn't use Python for a GUI (because I'd use JS/TS).

lmm3y ago

But who wants dozens of instances of a C GUI?

I'd be the first to complain about latency where it maters, but launching a Python program is perceptually instant (and significantly lower-latency than many nominally "faster" languages, IME).

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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geysersam3y ago

Yes but what kind of comparison is that: 1. How often do you need to execute 1000 GUI instances? 2. How often do you need to print "hello world"?

The right tool for the right job.

willis936OP3y ago

This is a discussion about computers being slow. As in a person asks a computer to do something and the human waits while the computer does it.

So python isn't the right tool for any job that involves human interaction.

Nihilartikel3y ago

Python _is_ slow, but even back in 2006 on a pentium 4 I had no problem using it with PyGame to build a smooth 60fps rtype style shooter for a coding challenge.

One just has to not do anything dumb in the render loop and it's plenty responsive.

Of course, if you're going to interactively process a 50mb csv or something... But even then pandas is faster.

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geysersam3y ago

Nah that's too general. A lot of website/app backends use Django or Fastapi and they work fine. Many more use PHP, also not a language famed for extreme performance.

It depends on the application. Personally I wouldn't use Python for a GUI (because I'd use JS/TS).

lmm3y ago

But who wants dozens of instances of a C GUI?

I'd be the first to complain about latency where it maters, but launching a Python program is perceptually instant (and significantly lower-latency than many nominally "faster" languages, IME).

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse