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0 pointsplonk4y ago0 comments

> With a simple shell script and a bit of configuration you can set up a box that will check some email and act after detecting some kind of commands directed at it.

Yes but I don't see how using a mailing list would improve anything. You'd just end up re-writing all GitLab features on top of a different database and interface, and the scaling issues would remain. This seems like more of a centralisation-vs-self-hosting issue.

> That being said, I'm 90% sure the GP is sarcastic, trying pull reductio ad absurdum on people who will almost assuredly come here commenting that "the community" should "abandon centralized services" in favor of this or that pet-project.

Makes sense but I didn't interpret it that way.

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kkfx4y ago· 3 in thread

A ML is personal. You can move it from a hoster, potentially yourself included, to another. You can't move GitHub because it's not an implementation of something standard but a proprietary service...

That's the issue. You ML can be down, other 99% of FLOSS ML projects will not even notice the downtime, if all are on a service and the service goes down all are affected. Your ML is yours, a political issue between two government will not block you, GH can be blocked and actually was blocked and is still for various countries and reasons NOT directly related to individual projects on it. And so on.

Peoples these days tend to think that mega-IT-giants will always be up and running, so being on their shoulder is a guarantee of stability, actually is the contrary is a threat.

klibertp4y ago

Oh boy, I was wrong. You were serious? I mean, I myself am often telling other programmers to study history of the field, pointing out that a lot of "ground-breaking" ideas were invented in the '70s, but trying to bring those ideas as realized back then to today's world is not going to work. Both USENET and self-hosted mailing lists died for a reason: it's too cheap to spam them and with increasing number of users, the probability of someone wanting to fuck them up approaches 1.

Self-hosting is a good thing, but you can get halfway there by simply having a backup hosting from an unrelated entity. Actually, if you look at GNU Emacs development that I'm familiar with, it's conducted over a mailing list and a self-hosted git repo, but that repo is mirrored and backed up on GitHub...

plonkOP4y ago

That's an argument for self-hosting, not for mailing lists. What you're describing is GitLab.

kkfx4y ago

ML can be both self-hosted or hosted by third party, being a standard thing you are not tied to any specific player. Your "public upstream repo" is on your domain, no matter who bound it right now.

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