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0 pointsKerrAvon4y ago0 comments

https://www.salon.com/2022/05/25/you-are-doing-nothing-erupt...

"These massacres are not natural disasters, acts of God, or random. They are totally predictable, direct consequences of the choices made by Greg Abbott and the majority of those in the Texas legislature," O'Rourke wrote to supporters in a Wednesday email.

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whatshisface4y ago· 3 in thread

Something can be random and also preventable.

bifrost4y ago

Its true.

Texas had a plan in to spruce up school safety, they just didn't go forward with it, its pretty sad. I read through it, it looked like it would be very effective.

Luckily first responders neutralized the shooter otherwise more kids would've died.

WillPostForFood4y ago

All the details aren't in, but this case apparently involved a police chase that led to the school, a school resource officer was present and wasn't able to stop the shooter from entering the school (nor were the pursuing police officers).

The first responders called for help, and a Border Patrol agent came to the scene, ran in alone and killed the shooter.

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jkestner4y ago

This school has in fact more than doubled their security spending in the last five years, including hiring their own security force, for what good that did them. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/uvalde-texas-school-sho...

I think we need something other than “sprucing up” school safety. Only trying to stop the shooters at the point of attack is pathetically ineffective. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

bifrost4y ago· 2 in thread

Beto is right and wrong at the same time.

This psycho kid had red flags everywhere and there was no real mechanism in place to close the loop.

discreteevent4y ago

The psycho kid waited until he was 18 and then went and bought an AR because he could. He could not have done that in most other countries. And most other countries also have psycho kids. The only downside of this is that normal kids in other countries cannot buy an AR when they turn 18.

bifrost4y ago

Thats pretty orthogonal to the issue at hand.

There are over 350 million legal gun owners in the US, we're statistically safer than any other country.

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jjcon4y ago

> They are totally predictable, direct consequences of the choices made by Greg Abbott and the majority of those in the Texas legislature

I don't understand blaming Texas laws, California has much stricter laws and has technically more mass shootings per capita than Texas[0]. To me these are all such low numbers that it is hard to draw any conclusions based on policy, let alone specific legislation from a specific Governor. I'm all for practical solutions (hell I'd have them throw the second amendment out if it were even possible) but I don't know that there are many easy answers to the problem.

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/811541/mass-shootings-in...

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8 comments · 3 top-level

whatshisface4y ago· 3 in thread

Something can be random and also preventable.

bifrost4y ago

Its true.

Texas had a plan in to spruce up school safety, they just didn't go forward with it, its pretty sad. I read through it, it looked like it would be very effective.

Luckily first responders neutralized the shooter otherwise more kids would've died.

WillPostForFood4y ago

The first responders called for help, and a Border Patrol agent came to the scene, ran in alone and killed the shooter.

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jkestner4y ago

bifrost4y ago· 2 in thread

Beto is right and wrong at the same time.

This psycho kid had red flags everywhere and there was no real mechanism in place to close the loop.

discreteevent4y ago

bifrost4y ago

Thats pretty orthogonal to the issue at hand.

There are over 350 million legal gun owners in the US, we're statistically safer than any other country.

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jjcon4y ago

> They are totally predictable, direct consequences of the choices made by Greg Abbott and the majority of those in the Texas legislature

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/811541/mass-shootings-in...

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