Isn't it funny though, how I could make the exact same baseless claim about you - that you're just clout chasing by engaging so adamantly and arrogantly on HN? It's such a vacant name calling argument tactic but it works on ideologues like yourself - and so why you also use it; it also goes to show that you don't actually weigh your arguments out, if these experts are lying simply for "clout chasing" then what behaviours will Pfizer (et al) partake in if they are profit chasing?

Pfizer in 2021 made $37 billion just from the mRNA shots - but you think these "clout chasing" experts who are probably only making a very tiny fraction of what Pfizer is making (probably nowhere near how much the politicians make, who get money from these companies, for added conflict of interest that you should address too), these counter mainstream narrative experts putting their 20-40+ year careers on the line for clout is more likely the one participating in bad-unethical-illegal behaviour?

You're aware of the pharmaceutical's previous unethical behaviours that they'e been fined to the tune of billions of dollars for - and arguably those fines aren't adequate, and because none of the executives end up in jail - there's no disincentive to try to stop them from continuing to try the same unethical behaviours?

I'm truly curious: how do you balance these facts, or do you not understand or appreciate or believe that this human behaviour exists - even though Pfizer et al have already been found guilty of these behaviours in the past? Do you even weigh things out of what you believe with opposing information presented to you?

I hope you also reply in depth to my long reply, we'll all truly see if you actually care about the truth then or not - if you're more likely doing it for clout: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31396978

No. It’s not at all relevant anymore. The MRNA vaccines are no longer “effective” on current variants and are not necessarily “safe” for certain groups. Just dropping a talking point as gospel when it is not, is doing the exact same thing that you are complaining about.

Your point could have been valid in early 2021 when we were not vaccinating healthy males under 30, and the risk ratio was a lot higher due to the severity of the novel covid and variants up to delta. Once Omicron arrived and the severity dropped significantly and we opened vaccination to healthy males under 30 the risk ratio changed. The vaccines were not significantly effective past delta, and the myocardial risk for males under 30 became statistically significant as compared to the protection that the vaccines were offering.