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0 pointsmyshpa3y ago0 comments

As a young boy I too was taught how to kill rabbits and poultry by my grandparents.

As a city boy I was chasing my screaming village nephews with a rabbit eye all over the grounds.

I've spent few summers around cowhouse and young calfs, "helping" my aunt take care of them.

I've killed and cleaned few fish for christmas.

The animals I watched killed were living good life and there was no suffering at the end.

So I always had an image in my mind of animals living in green fields, and then miraculously and humanly killed in an instant.

But I've never been around slaughterhouse or in a highly industrialized meat production facility. Even now many people in cities don't know where milk comes from (yes, they know it's from cows, but they don't know that you have to artificially inseminate the cow and take away the calves, and they never heard them crying for days).

The amount of suffering, brutality and aggression of slaughterhouse staff, the supposedly human ways of killing our food, the long, painful and stressful process of killing, the amount of screaming of distressed animals, skinning of alive animals - documented in the Dominion (2018) movie - I was not prepared for that.

But that's not what made me vegan. I've seen it long after I've become vegan.

I'm not advocating for soylent (soylent green is people, anyhow).

But it is an argument for changing our practices, because it shows that propaganda of meat industry (happy cows & meals in burger joints, pictures of cows grazing in the fields on supermarket shelves, etc.) is just a big lie. And that we simply don't know how to kill painlessly.

Few quotes:

If you visit the killing floor of a slaughterhouse, it will brand your soul for life. [Howard Lyman]

If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be a vegetarian. [Paul McCartney]

Those who purchase meat, fur, and leather have no right to be shielded from the sights and sounds of the slaughterhouses from which these products were produced. [Peter Singer]

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no_time3y ago

>The animals I watched killed were living good life and there was no suffering at the end.

>So I always had an image in my mind of animals living in green fields, and then miraculously and humanly killed in an instant.

Now this is something I haven't heard before from a vegan. Does this mean that in principle, you'd have no problems eating an animal you are 100% sure died in a dignified, painless way because you killed it that way?

myshpaOP3y ago

No, I've been taught that to survive/be healthy we need to eat meat. So I didn't question it (for several decades).

The idea of animals happily living on the farm somewhere and their painless/swift death is a part of the lie. The reality ... is of course much, much worse.

I've become vegan because of other people (not enough space for everybody to eat same amount of meat as westerners do), because of the loss of biodiversity (such shame to erase so many "cumulative billions of years of dna code generation") and because of meat production's adverse effects on the environment.

Health and moral aspects came later, for me.

Now that I know (and verified it myself) that we the people in fact don't need animal products to be healthy, that quite the opposite is true, that we don't need to cause unnecessary suffering for our own livehood, I'm not interested in eating animal products anymore.

It may change if our civilization collapses. For now ... with the plants available ... no, thank you.

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