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0 pointshnarn4y ago0 comments

> I don't think it's ethical to evaluate a candidate's interactions when they weren't informed they were being evaluated.

That makes about as much sense as saying that you shouldn’t be held responsible for stealing office supplies because no one informed you that there were cameras installed.

If you treat cab drivers and other service personnel badly, that’s because you’re a shit person. It’s really that simple. I’ve been in extremely stressful situations in my life involving lots of travel and I’ve yet to “take it out” on a third party.

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yes_really4y ago· 4 in thread

If you cheat on your partner you are also a "shit person". Do you think employers should reject candidates if they know they cheated on a romantic relationship?

Spinnaker_4y ago

Honestly, if I somehow knew that the candidate cheated on their partner, then yes, I would reject them. I doubt I will ever find myself in that position.

I did have a coworker cheat on their spouse. I certainly lost respect for them, avoided working with them whenever possible, and cut off the non-professional aspect of our relationship.

mariodiana4y ago

I recall Ross Perot saying, "If your wife can't trust you, how can I."

kbelder4y ago

I'd treat that similarly to finding that the person had embezzled money before. I wouldn't want a person of that character anywhere around me or my business.

rthille4y ago

Once again, WE WERE ON A BREAK!

wolverine8764y ago· 3 in thread

> If you treat cab drivers and other service personnel badly, that’s because you’re a shit person.

That attitude seems the same one that judges service workers. IME, and based on what I know of humanity, people act badly because they feel vulnerable; they are scared or anxious. It's still bad behavior, but they aren't 'shit people'.

If bad behavior damns us, then we all qualify. The mistake is judging others, and lacking empathy and humility.

> I’ve been in extremely stressful situations in my life involving lots of travel and I’ve yet to “take it out” on a third party.

We all act badly sometimes; if you really think you don't, you are not seeing it. It's not ok in the situation, but it's ok in terms of our humanity. Apologize and work to do better.

dolebirchwood4y ago

These are reasonable points in the context of normal everyday life. However, when making a hiring decision, there are likely to be several competent candidates who could all do the job just as well as any other. If you've got an easy way to filter out potentially problematic candidates based on their soft skills, might as well do so to avoid a bad hire. There's no room for giving the benefit of the doubt in this context.

johnnyanmac4y ago

>There's no room for giving the benefit of the doubt in this context.

really depends on the candidate and the situation. We dont have the context for neither here. If a truly senior candidate who has deep domain knowledge interviews, they may not be dinged as much if they gave a service worker a low tip or complained about the smell of the car.

But sure, for some college candidate in a yearly hiring spree that are all from top schools, maybe that is the little bit of a filter needed to make a difference.

wolverine8764y ago

Perhaps, but that doesn't make the candidate a 'shit person'.

Melatonic4y ago· 3 in thread

I generally apply a similar test when dating - if the person is a huge asshole to the service staff then it generally is not going anywhere

bee_rider4y ago

Sorry, unless you tell them you are testing their dateablilty you have to ignore any behavior on their part.

DFHippie4y ago

This needs a "/s".

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geocrasher4y ago

Giant red flag, indeed.

jokab4y ago

#realtalk

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