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0 pointspc864y ago0 comments

Travel nurses are compensated quite a bit more in my understanding. And the travel aspect means they can leave the more toxic locations more easily.

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phkahler4y ago· 7 in thread

They're paid a shit ton more. And because of that, more nurses are quitting to do the travel thing, which worsens the shortage and increases demand for travel nurses ;-) never seen an industry fuck itself over so bad. That's really the issue - healthcare has become an industry, not a profession.

joshgel4y ago

It's really amazing to see travel nurses come back to work at a place they just left. They are now doing the same job as before, are getting paid almost twice as much with better schedules and are working next to people that they know and are friends with.

It's honestly surprising that more haven't taken the jump and is really shocking that hospitals aren't doing more to retain critical staff.

zaptheimpaler4y ago

Its hilarious that nursing shares this problem with the tech industry and probably with most other industries. Every company is extremely allergic to giving raises and is happy to let their workforce churn constantly. You would think they believe that experience has no value.

But on the hiring side, experience is one of the most widely accepted signals of value.

TecoAndJix4y ago

The hospitals have been asking Biden to put a stop to it: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077710203/hospitals-ask-bide...

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lotsofpulp4y ago

As you noted at the beginning of your comment, the issue is the pay to quality of life at work ratio being too low.

s1artibartfast4y ago

AT some point you hit diminishing returns on the pay/QAL ratio.

IF the tradeoff is bad at 200k/yr, it wont be better at 225k/yr or 250k/yr

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BobbyJo4y ago

The market... finds a way.

bumby4y ago

While technically true, what we're trying to avoid is forcing the market to find a way that may include an interim period of extremely bad outcomes before correcting itself

ProAm4y ago

A travel nurse means you just have to work across town you dont have to travel out of state, out of country, or to middle of nowhere. And these people are bringing in 5k a week currently. None of them are leaving.

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phkahler4y ago· 7 in thread

joshgel4y ago

It's honestly surprising that more haven't taken the jump and is really shocking that hospitals aren't doing more to retain critical staff.

zaptheimpaler4y ago

But on the hiring side, experience is one of the most widely accepted signals of value.

TecoAndJix4y ago

The hospitals have been asking Biden to put a stop to it: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/02/1077710203/hospitals-ask-bide...

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lotsofpulp4y ago

As you noted at the beginning of your comment, the issue is the pay to quality of life at work ratio being too low.

s1artibartfast4y ago

AT some point you hit diminishing returns on the pay/QAL ratio.

IF the tradeoff is bad at 200k/yr, it wont be better at 225k/yr or 250k/yr

2 more replies

BobbyJo4y ago

The market... finds a way.

bumby4y ago

While technically true, what we're trying to avoid is forcing the market to find a way that may include an interim period of extremely bad outcomes before correcting itself

ProAm4y ago

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