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0 pointsphilosopher12344y ago0 comments

I’m pro censorship. We have and need speech norms.

The left and right are not equal. The left does not rely as much on lies to advocate its positions, and the left is not as oriented around destruction and regression as the right.

We need a more robust understanding of speech than “allowed or not”. Emphasis & volume matters.

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monkeywork4y ago

I'm someone on the left and I fundamentally disagree with literally every point you made.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Good for you.

barbacoa4y ago

I'm a firm believer in the horseshoe theory.

If you listen to the intolerant wing of the right, the parts that would legitimately support overturning elections and arresting political opponents, they sound eerily similar to your sentiment.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

The horse shoe theory makes a lot of sense until you actually research the right and left and discover that they are in fact very different.

It’s a thought stopping theory that allows you to remain smug and correct despite being deeply ignorant.

bgandrew4y ago

those modern lefts.. just look at russia. censorship is how it all started there.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

The fact is that humans are not smart enough to reliably detect fact from fiction. Half of this website would just as soon look the other way at trumps track record.

Something needs to be done. Free speech maximalism is a threat.

gjsman-10004y ago

"does not rely as much on lies to advocate its positions"

To be honest, that's hilariously false. The left suppressed Hunter Biden's laptop story for two years, saying it was misinformation, before admitting it was true. The IRS targeted right-wing and Christian non-profit organizations deliberately for auditing. Obama claimed that forcing nuns to buy health insurance covering birth control was necessary, and claimed you could keep your doctor under Obamacare, which even PolitiFact called a Pants-on-Fire Lie. The left claimed that a baker needed to make a personalized cake supporting gay rights, or it would open the waves to discrimination, even though the baker was willing to sell any other cake to them that wasn't customized with that particular label.

I can go on and on.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Please, do go on and on. You can stop when you get to the left attempting to overturn the American presidential election.

Edit: are our neoliberal overlords a bunch of cold hearted shit heads? Yes. Should we elect and promote barely disguised fascists in response? No.

gjsman-10004y ago

Huh. I remember when the left had Maxine Waters saying to publicly harass voters of the opposite political party, and during the 2016 election when they tried to harass and dox the electors in hope that would prevent Trump from being elected.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Do you remember when the sitting democratic president of the United States claimed to have won the election and attempted to persuade his colleagues to overturn it?

Who the fuck cares about Maxine waters?

legalcorrection4y ago

They framed Trump for treason and thereby completely undermined him before he even formally took office. Are we going to memoryhole that? That’s the same thing as stealing the election.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

One is an indisputable coup attempt and the other is exaggerated.

> it’s not the one you think

Yes it is.

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monkeywork4y ago

I'm someone on the left and I fundamentally disagree with literally every point you made.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Good for you.

barbacoa4y ago

I'm a firm believer in the horseshoe theory.

If you listen to the intolerant wing of the right, the parts that would legitimately support overturning elections and arresting political opponents, they sound eerily similar to your sentiment.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

The horse shoe theory makes a lot of sense until you actually research the right and left and discover that they are in fact very different.

It’s a thought stopping theory that allows you to remain smug and correct despite being deeply ignorant.

bgandrew4y ago

those modern lefts.. just look at russia. censorship is how it all started there.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

The fact is that humans are not smart enough to reliably detect fact from fiction. Half of this website would just as soon look the other way at trumps track record.

Something needs to be done. Free speech maximalism is a threat.

gjsman-10004y ago

"does not rely as much on lies to advocate its positions"

I can go on and on.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Please, do go on and on. You can stop when you get to the left attempting to overturn the American presidential election.

Edit: are our neoliberal overlords a bunch of cold hearted shit heads? Yes. Should we elect and promote barely disguised fascists in response? No.

gjsman-10004y ago

philosopher1234OP4y ago

Do you remember when the sitting democratic president of the United States claimed to have won the election and attempted to persuade his colleagues to overturn it?

Who the fuck cares about Maxine waters?

legalcorrection4y ago

They framed Trump for treason and thereby completely undermined him before he even formally took office. Are we going to memoryhole that? That’s the same thing as stealing the election.

philosopher1234OP4y ago

One is an indisputable coup attempt and the other is exaggerated.

> it’s not the one you think

Yes it is.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse