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0 pointseducaysean4y ago0 comments

This feels unnecessarily hostile. I've felt a similar tinge of disappointment upon reading that paragraph, despite the fact that I somehow knew it was "their service, their call" without you being there to spell it out for me. It's also incredibly shortsighted of you to assume that people are interested in exploring this tool only as a means of generating art that they cannot themselves do. Eg. I myself am a software engineer with a fine art background, and exciting new AI art tools being released in such a hamstrung state feels like an insult to centuries of art that humans have created and enjoyed, much of which depicted scenes with nudity or bloody combat.

I feel like we, as a species, will struggle for a while with how to treat adults like adults online. As happy as I am to advocate for safe spaces on the internet, perhaps we need to start having a serious discussion about how we can do so without resorting to putting safety mats everywhere and calling it a job well done.

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wokwokwok4y ago

This is kind of like complaining about having too many meetings at work.

Yup, everyone feels it. …but, does complaining help? Nope. All it does is make you feel a bit better with out really putting in effort in.

We can’t have nice things because people abuse them. Not everyone. …but enough people that it’s both a PR and legal problem. specifcally a legal problem in this case.

To have adults treated like adults online, you have to figure out how to stop all adults from being dicks online.

…no one has figured that out yet.

So, complain away if you like, but it will do exactly nothing. No one, at all, is going to just “have a serious discussion” about this; the solution you propose is flat out untenable, and will probably remain so indefinitely.

sillysaurusx4y ago

None of this is true. It’s not a legal problem.

Every single time OpenAI comes out with something, they dress it up as a huge threat, either to society or to themselves. Everyone falls for it. Then someone else comes along, quietly replicates it, and poof! No threat! Isn’t it incredible how that works?

There are already a bunch of dalle replicas, including ones hosted openly and uncensored by huggingface. They’re not facing huge legal or PR problems, and they’re not out of business.

mrtranscendence4y ago

The DALL-E replicas on hugging face are not sophisticated enough to generate credibly realistic images of the kind that would generate bad PR. I suspect the moment it becomes possible for a pedophile to request, and receive, a photorealistic image of a child being abused there will be bad PR for whatever company facilitates it. Or consider someone who wants to generate and distribute explicit photos of someone else without their permission.

Is it a legal issue? I'm not sure, though I believe that cartoon child porn is not legal in the US (or is at least a legal gray area). Regardless, I sympathize with OpenAI not wanting to enable such behavior.

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