It turns out, for basic computer use cases, like scrolling on a website, motion clarity matters. My holy grail (for something usable from current PCs) is

  - fast pixel response (CRTs are close, but the light to dark transitions fail)
  - strobing, or a refresh rate that is high enough such that there is no blur (240Hz still doesn't fix this)
  - at least 100Hz or so (perhaps only because I haven't used stuff over 144Hz enough yet)
  - non glossy without grainy artifacts
  - retina pixel density
  - no viewing angle issues
  - *at least* as good contrast as a 90% dead CRT I got in the trash
  - no bloatware in the monitor or whatever they do that adds tons of input lag for no reason
  - no local dimming type artifacts that (obviously) local dimming causes, but more importantly what the alpha OLEDs have
  - low minimum brightness. most LCDs even at the lowest settings are far too bright
  - the option of warm color temperatures
  - perfectly flat screen, and pixel sharpness, for the sake of being fair (but the latest CRTs almost pass)
  - no backlight bleed

> I suspect this is because the fabrication of the LCDs is tuned to a particular pixel size, so if a company wants to make a 4K monitor, they scale existing LCD production up to a large enough size that they can get it 2160 pixels tall (by however wide), and that’s the size of the display. They can advertise having both a large display (which people like) and 4K (which people like), so there’s no downside to the manufacturers.

There are plenty of 13" 1440p laptop panels being made. You just have to mate 4 of them together to make a 26" 5K display and yet this isn't done. Hell, I'd just settle for someone selling 13/15" 1440p/4K panels in a cheap, thin bezel enclosure with a VESA mount on the back for $250 - $400 a pop and I could make my own 5K/6K display for cheaper than what they're selling for.

I think the Dell 8k 32" is pretty close to what you want — https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-m.... It's certainly not cheap!

edit: in case anyone knows, I see this monitor "requires two DisplayPorts" for full 8k. Does anyone know if I can plug two display ports into a docking station, and one cord out of the docking station into my 14" m1 mbp? Ideally this would also charge the mbp. Is this possible? If I were to buy such an expensive monitor, I really only want one cord.

Agh yeah that is my dream monitor as well. There are some 5k2k ultrawides that get close but the reviews aren't positive :(

Yup. The closest thing we can get is just 4k 144hz. But will have to sacrifice some clarity for fractional scaling in MacOS.

  Non-curved 60Hz monitors are a thing of the past they should be relegated to monitors that cost 200$.

That was an easy comment to make! Do you realize that other peoples have different preferences than you do and they are equally valid.

Maybe it should be, but it’s not actually a thing of the past. I would bet hard cash that a higher number of recently released expensive monitors ($1000+) don’t have retina than those that did. There is still a massive market for people willing to make the trade off in another direction (like higher refresh rate or going ultrawide) rather than retina.

Obviously it’d be amazing if what you said is true, because both retina and HRR are very nice to have

Just like non-VRR is a thing of the past, non-120+Hz is a thing of the past, etc.

I can claim equally without evidence that non-120+Hz is a thing of the past.

There are so many other dimensions that can be more important. 110 dpi is fine for me now - my next upgrade will focus on contrast and black level instead.