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0 pointscf141q53254y ago0 comments

You just repeated the wording of your story while ignoring my post entirely.

1) Contract implies consenting parties. Using the word in another capacity is a frame. It being a popular one doesnt change that.

2) Your actions entailing a lot more then just your declared intentions. As in your definition of harmful being quite broad.

Or differently put, you have a story which with you justify forcing people around.

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Tijdreiziger4y ago· 3 in thread

Any contract must be backed up by force, or else it’s meaningless.

As an example, if you enter into a legal contract, that contract is backed up by the threat of litigation (and by extension, force). If it weren’t, there wouldn’t be any incentive to obey it.

And yes, I do believe that the consensus is that activities with an outsized climate impact are harmful.

sundbry4y ago

Others maintain the view that central bank driven infinite debt a/k/a "economic growth" is the key driver of global warming, rather than it's antithesis.

cf141q5325OP4y ago

IF you enter. There is the choice that is lacking is this case. Without the choice there is no contract, just the force.

And if it were consensus you wouldnt have to force it.

Both "contract" and "consensus" are nice frames for forcing people to do what you think is right. At least be honest about it.

Tijdreiziger4y ago

If enough members of society disagree with the terms of the contract, they may vote in representatives who change those terms, or alternatively they may revolt and install new representatives that way (see e.g. the French Revolution, American Revolution or Arab Spring).

If you instead hold the view that _every single individual_ should be able to opt out of the contract (i.e. should be able to choose not to be subject to the rule of law), then you go back to ‘anarchism is the only form of free government’, which is where we started this discussion 6 comments ago. QED.

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