Want to know your users better? Run your own analytics (opens in new tab)

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intev14y ago· 4 in thread

Nice example, but a major pain point I see is dev time. There is going to be significant amount of time being spent making the analytics platform, and then scaling it. It might be better spent on the product itself until it takes off.

d2ncalOP14y ago

We had a simple dashboard for tracking key metrics, but soon needed reports like retention breakdown by user.

It literally took is 1.5 days to get this whole thing up and running, and saved countless amount of time in the future trying to analyze the usage.

alttab14y ago

I disagree. We have a similar event table in our product, and there was a huge pain in getting stats and reports for our clients and vendors.

I've created a similar application - one with integrated cohort analysis, a full working definition dictionary for all events, and a reporting dashboard that allows account managers access to data for their clients on a daily basis. The idea is that dev + product + account mgmnt work on the same platform.

I built it myself in my spare time over the course of about 4-5 weekends. When data is fully integrated and accessible it makes it worth the investment.

llch14y ago

cohort analysis is the best investment for us so far. without cohort, we never know if our iterations are contributing our goals -- usually it means keeping track of retention for identifying product/market fit.

dime14y ago

Agreed. It would seem to me that time would be better spent on core services. Why be knee deep in something that is already becoming a commodity?

DanielRibeiro14y ago· 3 in thread

Really? Mixpanel[1] is really nice for doing it, doing it realtime, doing it across platforms (not just web), and adding the cohort analysis[2] (which yields the most important non-vanity metrics).

[1] http://mixpanel.com/

[2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2986186

d2ncalOP14y ago

Mixpanel is great, but it doesn't know everything about the user or the action. This is why being able to combine the events log with user data is critical and something like this is needed.

badclient14y ago

mixpanel's got a long way to go. As the main dev leading mixpanel at my company, it is a pain inserting a line to track every event some person may need at the organization.

This really holds back an organization where product and dev teams are separate.

DanielRibeiro14y ago

In my experience, whenever product and dev teams are separate these kind of skirmishes happen. Let it be tracking or any other kind of features.

Unfortunately bridging this gap is the only way to solve it.

Behind every technical problem there is actually a human problem that needs to be fixed[1]

[1] http://www.youtube.com/scobleizer#p/search/1/1p3vcRhsYGo

danfitch14y ago

I fully agree. We track millions of events per day and I use hive and hadoop to do my analysis. Not as user friendly but putting the data into a pivot table helps alot.

superjared14y ago

The thing about analytics is that it's BIG data. A single user event can cascade into multiple datapoints that you either have to keep normalized (like in the SQL example) or denormalize into something more manageable. The latter of which is really the only way to handle TBs of data, and it's not trivial. It's a fun job, but it's full time.

rednaught14y ago

Nice to see an article on this subject. I'm of the thought that basic analytics are an extension of an app's/site's dashboard. You do have a dashboard don't you?

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12 comments

12 comments · 5 top-level

intev14y ago· 4 in thread

d2ncalOP14y ago

We had a simple dashboard for tracking key metrics, but soon needed reports like retention breakdown by user.

It literally took is 1.5 days to get this whole thing up and running, and saved countless amount of time in the future trying to analyze the usage.

alttab14y ago

I disagree. We have a similar event table in our product, and there was a huge pain in getting stats and reports for our clients and vendors.

I built it myself in my spare time over the course of about 4-5 weekends. When data is fully integrated and accessible it makes it worth the investment.

llch14y ago

dime14y ago

Agreed. It would seem to me that time would be better spent on core services. Why be knee deep in something that is already becoming a commodity?

DanielRibeiro14y ago· 3 in thread

Really? Mixpanel[1] is really nice for doing it, doing it realtime, doing it across platforms (not just web), and adding the cohort analysis[2] (which yields the most important non-vanity metrics).

[1] http://mixpanel.com/

[2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2986186

d2ncalOP14y ago

Mixpanel is great, but it doesn't know everything about the user or the action. This is why being able to combine the events log with user data is critical and something like this is needed.

badclient14y ago

mixpanel's got a long way to go. As the main dev leading mixpanel at my company, it is a pain inserting a line to track every event some person may need at the organization.

This really holds back an organization where product and dev teams are separate.

DanielRibeiro14y ago

In my experience, whenever product and dev teams are separate these kind of skirmishes happen. Let it be tracking or any other kind of features.

Unfortunately bridging this gap is the only way to solve it.

Behind every technical problem there is actually a human problem that needs to be fixed[1]

[1] http://www.youtube.com/scobleizer#p/search/1/1p3vcRhsYGo

danfitch14y ago

I fully agree. We track millions of events per day and I use hive and hadoop to do my analysis. Not as user friendly but putting the data into a pivot table helps alot.

superjared14y ago

rednaught14y ago

Nice to see an article on this subject. I'm of the thought that basic analytics are an extension of an app's/site's dashboard. You do have a dashboard don't you?

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