What kind of MBP have you looked at?
I agree with the ethos part, but the current M1 devices are pretty unique in the laptop space.
Relative to the rest of the laptop space though? I think I'd simply call the M1 "competitive". It's not the first laptop we've seen with a powerful iGPU (AMD's Vega graphics were first to the party in that regard), and it's CPU performance is good but not great (it's effectively a quad-core system no matter how you end up using it). On the higher-end, it's almost a little embarrassing how hard Intel about-faced with Alder Lake and took Apple to the cleaners with a more bloated ISA, decidedly worse silicon and a complete lack of experience designing heterogeneous systems.
So far, the only unique thing I've seen from the M1 is the battery life. I anticipate other manufacturers will catch up on that front as we transition to big.LITTLE and more dense silicon packages, so I'm not really that worried for the rest of the industry. I'm glad Apple has made a laptop that their fans can enjoy, but x86/32-bit support is non-negotiable for my workload, and they have yet to prove themselves with higher-end hardware. Time will tell, but I'm just happy that the performance wars aren't as much of a blowout anymore.
I don't understand. About-faced and take to the cleaners? (Not a native speaker)
About-face is a military-derived term that means "to turn around quickly", as if commanded to.
"take to the cleaners" is a phrase usually used in sports that describes one team completely defeating another in one game/instance.
Hope that helps :p
The only complaint I have is that sometimes the keys leave an imprint on the screen but that could just be my bag being too tight. I would definitely have this problem with a Thinkpad or high end HP anyway. Speakers are the best I’ve heard and the chasis is stiffer than my car’s. The screen is awesome…. In a thread about a framework laptop I don’t think I can find something that’s “eh”.
Unless you’re talking about it not being upgradable, but that’s not a build defect.
To me it just looks like the IT equivalent of a john deere tractor. It'll get the job done, bit fancy, but their going to bleed every dollar out of you to do it...and your stuffed if it breaks and you want to fix it. Also after you've been in their loop for a decade....fat luck breaking out of that companies buying cycle easily. Which results in me thinking....eh avg build. avg device. Its definitely nothing special that's just marketing hype.
I still think that the MacBooks are all above the average of what’s out there.
Not sure if the quality is actually any different. But my first impression was "what the fuck is this?".
Con. It can't even run code from a whole segment of apps because of archi it's built on.
Result - Perf was nothing out of line with expected results from what you'd expect the market to come up with for the next range of products.
It's really nothing special from the user end of things.
1) The hardware is first class. Everything is back where it should be and improved. You can't get hardware like this anywhere else. 2) It is extremely fast. Nothing ever slows down. I can't figure out anything to throw at this thing that will turn on the fan even. 3) It just works. No drama. This is very valuable if your real value is writing code and not doing sys admin.
I suspect if my Windows laptop was closer to the other devices it would be slower, but Linux just feels so much faster than macOS in actual tasks. The interactions are so much "snappier", whereas with macOS most interactions feel like a chore (I think it's the animations).
- have an insanely long battery life
- stay completely silent
- have excellent performance
The other laptops which can theoretically beat the MBP at some tasks utterly fail at being silent or having long battery life under load.
And the other silent laptops (chromebook maybe) can’t manage heavy workloads.
So it is very unique in the laptop space.
