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0 pointsavgcorrection4y ago0 comments

Is Putin even interested in making them into sovereign states? I don’t see how it achieves any of Russia’s goals. It hardly widens the Volgograd Gap.

I think concessions from the West would be better for Russia. But since they aren’t giving them any, Putin seemingly had to go in with his “peacekeeping force” or be called on his bluff.

I think Putin might plan to invade Ukraine to the point of making a land bridge to Crimea. Because I don’t see how Russia’s position has been improved with this move, even if Ukraine backs off from Donetsk and Luhansk completely.

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dragonwriter4y ago· 1 in thread

> Their best bet is probably to give them up, in hopes Russia will not invade the entire country.

The concessions Russia is looking for from the West are retreat from the NATO countries of Eastern Europe so that Russia can do (or, turn them into puppets with the threat of doing) the same thing to them that it is now doing to Ukraine.

The first part is nakedly overt, the second part is not even all that subtle in their intent. They’ve been very clear that Russia is entitled to a sphere of influence around its borders under its effective exclusive direction.

csee4y ago

But how does this make logical sense. There's a number of European countries that are not in NATO that are now going to be signing up to NATO. All that Russia has gained is to veto Ukraine's NATO membership but it has lost this bigger battle.

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