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0 pointsmmarq4y ago0 comments

> I always say that when it comes to lack of candidates there's this magical thing called "money" where if you throw more of it on the table the problem suddenly resolves itself.

In the past few years, developers’ salaries have increased significantly in the continent. In Germany they are almost on par with London. So to convince somebody to move to the UK and go through the immigration checks, you have to pay more than the average British employer can afford. For 80-90K£, you are far better off getting 60K€ in Germany or Austria. I wouldn’t advise a EU citizen to move to the UK if they aren’t going to earn more than 120K£.

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GianFabien4y ago

Many years ago I turned down a great job in London. The high salary wasn't enough to compensate for the far greater cost of living in London.

cassianoleal4y ago

> For 80-90K£, you are far better off getting 60K€ in Germany or Austria.

That's around €95K-€107K. How is getting that in the UK (far) worse than €60K in those places?

In any case, the parent's point stands: throw enough money at them and they will come.

mmarqOP4y ago

Because renting a half decent flat (new build, 60sqm, inner London) costs 2000£ per month, good food is extremely expensive (Waitrose would be an average supermarket in Southern Europe), the NHS is not as good as its continental homologues, so you have to pay for healthcare, public transport is very expensive, you have to deal with the immigration office (which western professionals aren’t used to), etc…

The cheapest nursery in inner London cost more than 1600£ per month, so if you have a child you’ll need 4000-4500£ per month (or 75-80K per annum) just to put a roof over your head. If you want to live like a professional or save some money, you’ll have to multiply that by 2.

rio5174y ago

Living in Berlin, 60k isn't really possible anymore for new hire. I bet there are people in their old jobs making that much, but for our backend hires we had to offer around 70 to find people.

mmarqOP4y ago

I started the comment saying that salaries in Germany are approaching those of London. Probably Berlin is still slightly below, but I think Hamburg have completed the catch-up.

Later I wrote that you get a better lifestyle in Germany with 60K€ than in London with 90K£.

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0 pointsmmarq4y ago0 comments

> I always say that when it comes to lack of candidates there's this magical thing called "money" where if you throw more of it on the table the problem suddenly resolves itself.

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GianFabien4y ago

Many years ago I turned down a great job in London. The high salary wasn't enough to compensate for the far greater cost of living in London.

cassianoleal4y ago

> For 80-90K£, you are far better off getting 60K€ in Germany or Austria.

That's around €95K-€107K. How is getting that in the UK (far) worse than €60K in those places?

In any case, the parent's point stands: throw enough money at them and they will come.

mmarqOP4y ago

rio5174y ago

Living in Berlin, 60k isn't really possible anymore for new hire. I bet there are people in their old jobs making that much, but for our backend hires we had to offer around 70 to find people.

mmarqOP4y ago

I started the comment saying that salaries in Germany are approaching those of London. Probably Berlin is still slightly below, but I think Hamburg have completed the catch-up.

Later I wrote that you get a better lifestyle in Germany with 60K€ than in London with 90K£.

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