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0 pointstorstenvl4y ago0 comments

When foreign armies hire mercenary groups to invade your homes so that they can maintain plausible deniability for what they know is an illegal and immoral act of war, I don't think there's any debate among non-psychopathic people.

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aristofun4y ago

This simplistic black/white view is a very dangerous position, perpetuating the “war is ok” mentality.

Read some Taleb’s books or watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film) to understand my point.

torstenvlOP4y ago

No. What is dangerous is refusing to recognize that bad people exist and do bad things. What is dangerous is calling into question people's right to defend themselves.

Nobody can stop you from believing that, e.g., Ukraine should just capitulate to Russia and give up its freedom. But don't pretend for a second that such a belief holds the moral high ground.

aristofun4y ago

Just watch the movie first. This simplistic naive view of the world is exactly what helps bad people thrive.

Im not defending anyone by this position, nor Im okay with any military invasion

im just pointing out how easy it is to manipulate people who buy this ignorant binary scale. In both ways

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aristofun4y ago

This simplistic black/white view is a very dangerous position, perpetuating the “war is ok” mentality.

Read some Taleb’s books or watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film) to understand my point.

torstenvlOP4y ago

No. What is dangerous is refusing to recognize that bad people exist and do bad things. What is dangerous is calling into question people's right to defend themselves.

Nobody can stop you from believing that, e.g., Ukraine should just capitulate to Russia and give up its freedom. But don't pretend for a second that such a belief holds the moral high ground.

aristofun4y ago

Just watch the movie first. This simplistic naive view of the world is exactly what helps bad people thrive.

Im not defending anyone by this position, nor Im okay with any military invasion

im just pointing out how easy it is to manipulate people who buy this ignorant binary scale. In both ways

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j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse