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0 pointsNbox94y ago0 comments

> all Apple has to do is give a >60% discount to their current prices.

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If being forced to compete fairly requires them to drop their prices by 60%, I think that’s a pretty good argument that they’re not competing fairly at the moment.

LexGray4y ago

When you are competing against stores that require you to use their ad-tech framework to make up the difference it is a different equation.

The idea of billions of devices out there with constantly running background ad-tech frameworks horrifying to me. It would make the AirTags stalking seem like a joke if every phone secretly tracked every Bluetooth. Right now Apple is in the stream to say no to that.

The argument seems to be Apple should just lock down things even further to prevent it from happening…

clusterfish4y ago

Bunch of FUD. OS features and permissions aren't going anywhere. Even if coercing users into providing permissions became a real problem, Apple could have the OS provide fake data to apps not whitelisted by the user.

If you don't want to be tracked, don't use Google, Facebook, and other ad techs. Doesn't matter whether you installed their apps or not. Even today Apple can't meaningfully shield you from their tracking if you choose to use their free ad-supported services. (And if you don't, there's not much value in tracking you since they can't sell your attention to the highest bidder)

I'm not defending ad tech, but it will take complex legislation to reign it in. You can't just hide from it in Apple's walled garden, it does not work.

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Mindwipe4y ago

Apple literally has an ad tech network that it would literally force on all apps in the store if it didn't know it would get an anti-trust slapdown.

clusterfish4y ago

They can also keep current exobirant fees and see how that works out for them, when their app store monopoly is inevitably legislated away.

They wouldn't be subject to legislators' interest in the first place if they charged reasonable fees.

jshen4y ago

Yes, because it’s an exploitative tax that only exists because of their monopoly on the App Store that houses nearly everyone with disposable income.

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Arcsech4y ago

If being forced to compete fairly requires them to drop their prices by 60%, I think that’s a pretty good argument that they’re not competing fairly at the moment.

LexGray4y ago

When you are competing against stores that require you to use their ad-tech framework to make up the difference it is a different equation.

The argument seems to be Apple should just lock down things even further to prevent it from happening…

clusterfish4y ago

I'm not defending ad tech, but it will take complex legislation to reign it in. You can't just hide from it in Apple's walled garden, it does not work.

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Mindwipe4y ago

Apple literally has an ad tech network that it would literally force on all apps in the store if it didn't know it would get an anti-trust slapdown.

clusterfish4y ago

They can also keep current exobirant fees and see how that works out for them, when their app store monopoly is inevitably legislated away.

They wouldn't be subject to legislators' interest in the first place if they charged reasonable fees.

jshen4y ago

Yes, because it’s an exploitative tax that only exists because of their monopoly on the App Store that houses nearly everyone with disposable income.

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