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0 pointsjack_pp4y ago0 comments

No they don't want to force anyone and there's no evidence of this. Just because there are a lot of evangelists doesn't mean anyone is forced to do anything

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ceejayoz4y ago

There's plenty of evidence of this; there are proposals to move house deeds, drivers' licenses, elections, etc. onto the blockchain. These wouldn't be "oh, you can just not participate" sorts of scenarios.

kyruzic4y ago

A blockchain is not web3 or crypto.

ceejayoz4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

The Venn diagram of web3, cryptocurrency, and blockchain proponents is substantially similar to a circle.

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ironyholder4y ago

Well, until there's a better way to have some kind of token or currency, blockchains will be part of web3. Lack of incentives is why the first wave of open protocol design fizzled out, which is why they're so important this time around.

The way it's shaping up, improper or overzealous incentives will be the undoing of the second wave, but that movie has yet to play out.

andybp854y ago

web3 is explicitly, 100% blockchain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3

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lkrubner4y ago

"no evidence of this" is too strong of a claim. The folks who argue that fiat currency is dead, or should be dead, are implying they want a world where fiat currency disappears and then cryptocurrency emerges as the replacement. In that scenario, it is correct to say that some people are trying to force crypto on the rest of the world.

fallingknife4y ago

That's like saying people who said that the telegraph is dead, and will be replaced by the telephone, were trying to force telephones on people.

lkrubner4y ago

Your comment only makes sense if the telegram was run by a government monopoly, since fiat currency is a government monopoly, and then if people were advocating for the government to close its telegram monopoly, then yes, those people could be said to be forcing telephones on people.

jakelazaroff4y ago

Crypto people aren't neutral observers simply predicting it will replace fiat, though. They are actively working to make that true. This is not an inevitable future for our society; if it happens, it will be because of activism from powerful people who stand to benefit.

giaour4y ago

El Salvador tried to force its residents to participate. The country's bitcoin law stipulates that "[e]very economic agent must accept bitcoin as payment": https://mobile.twitter.com/nayibbukele/status/14024468904662...

Predictably, this element of the law was not well received and is not being enforced after large scale protests

monktastic14y ago

Force is a spectrum. Even a gun to the head isn't a force: you could just accept the bullet, after all.

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ceejayoz4y ago

kyruzic4y ago

A blockchain is not web3 or crypto.

ceejayoz4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

The Venn diagram of web3, cryptocurrency, and blockchain proponents is substantially similar to a circle.

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ironyholder4y ago

The way it's shaping up, improper or overzealous incentives will be the undoing of the second wave, but that movie has yet to play out.

andybp854y ago

web3 is explicitly, 100% blockchain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3

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lkrubner4y ago

fallingknife4y ago

That's like saying people who said that the telegraph is dead, and will be replaced by the telephone, were trying to force telephones on people.

lkrubner4y ago

jakelazaroff4y ago

giaour4y ago

Predictably, this element of the law was not well received and is not being enforced after large scale protests

monktastic14y ago

Force is a spectrum. Even a gun to the head isn't a force: you could just accept the bullet, after all.

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