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0 pointsweatherlite4y ago0 comments

Oh yeah its so hard to criticize Israel, never read something bad about Israel. It's all praise and compliments in the media. Did you know most religious Jews around the world are afraid to walk with religious clothes because they're afraid to get beat up? They don't wanna be called child killers or dirty jews or something of that sort. This is happening now even in very woke cities like NY or London.

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smolder4y ago

How does your (dubious) claim that most jews live in such fear have anything to do with how criticism of Israel is treated? You're not really contradicting GP's claim, and to back it up, I've encountered what seem to be bad faith arguments in defense of Israel (including flavors A and B) in probably every public-facing online discussion of it. I think the only way to be sure you're having an honest conversation about Israel is to have it in person where you can better tell biased rhetoric (either for or against) from honest analysis. Though, honest analysis is also undermined ahead of time by bias and dishonesty further "upstream".

weatherliteOP4y ago

> How does your (dubious) claim that most jews live in such fear

There are many research groups that confirmed the feeling of fear by Jews in Europe and more recently in the U.S as well, there is nothing dubious about what I said. It's become very common for Jews to not leave the house with any Jewish identity (skullcaps for instance) in Germany, France, Netherlands and now in the U.S as well. This is also confirmed by a substantial increase in antisemitic incidents throughout the Western world. In fact only a few days ago there was one in Texas that luckily didn't end in deaths.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/half-of-jewish-c...

https://www.ajc.org/news/top-3-takeaways-from-ajcs-survey-on...

https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-20...

Honestly it feels ridiculous to keep adding links here, this is so well researched and written about I think it's beyond debate. Now does what I say here apply to all Jews equally? Obviously if you are non religious and wear no identifying clothes, and never mention your judaism, you will be exposed to less anti semitism (if any). But that's not saying there is no problem is it?

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