I meant one way or the other there will be a recession or depression, I don't know enough to speculate there but that and global economic trends and US isolationism are the recipies I was thinking of. All the major US states have big liberal cities and wide conservative rural areas. In the original civil war, slave based economy and livelihood was at stake. No matter what, economy will supersede ideology, there will be no civil war with a good economy. Just social unrest. And by good I don't mean stock market or cheap houses but well stocked walmart and >70% employment rate for those looking for work.