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0 pointsyosito4y ago0 comments

> The children in our family don't speak the same language as their grandparents did ... This doesn't seem to matter in any way that I've noticed

Speaking as a grandchild who didn't have the fortune of being exposed to my grandparents' language growing up, I felt that I missed out on a wealth of cultural knowledge and experience, which is what drove me to learn the language as an adult. I very much wish that I would have been taught by my family as a child.

> What would be an example of this?

Azt a fűzfán fütyülő réz angyalát!

This is the first example that came to my mind. It's not even the best example. The literal translation is "Unto that copper angel whistling on the willow tree", and it could be substituted with "Wow!" but good luck figuring out why it means that and why people use it instead of "Hűha".

Another more recent example, "Szeretném elkérni Mészáros Lőrinc anyukájának lencsefőzelék receptjét". You simply won't be able to understand what that means or why someone would say it as a literal translation.

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newsbinator4y ago

> You simply won't be able to understand what that means or why someone would say it as a literal translation.

This is a supporting argument for my point: it’s the equivalent of an in-joke that I simply wouldn’t be able to understand.

Lots of groups have in-jokes that I can’t understand. For example, 3/4ths of memes on gaming and sports subreddits. These are rich cultures I am not a part of and have no need to be a part of.

I want there to be a single, unifying baseline language that we can all understand. When a concept is relevant to us, we’ll create words for it. When it’s a historical or cultural curiosity and not relevant to us, we’ll leave it to be explored by hobbyists, academics and people who have some historical connection to it.

Not every in-joke in every culture needs to be preserved as a world heritage.

At some point we need to say: here are the words to know and here’s how we use them to do math, science, politics, and to debate social issues… everything that involves people who aren’t in one’s personal in-group, in one’s tribe or on one’s team.

Those words will evolve, but let them evolve globally, with off-shoots that are relevant to in-groups, but with a main branch that is relevant to everybody.

yositoOP4y ago

Hát, a lofasznak is van vége, ugyanúgy mint ennek a beszélgetésnek.

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