A system which still pretends you're talking through a teletype, a system where it would make sense to use both CR and LF together and individually to move the cursor accross or down or both, shuns it.

Windows never did mandate it, applications can use any line ending they like, but used it as a convention for backwards compatability with DOS which was backwards compatible with CP/M. CRLF is the standard in SMTP, POP, IMAP and HTTP.

To watch Linux fanatics:

1) identify Linux with Unix, for "superiority by association".

2) personally identify with the use of LF as a newline indicator in text(!)

3) fantasise that Microsoft's use of CRLF is inexplicable, inferior, dictatorial and in some way objectively wrong, while Linux's parroting of Unix is superior, amazing and in some way objectively correct.

4) Ignore that the American Standards Institute draft of control characters from 1963 had only CRLF newlines, and Multics from 1964 didn't go with the standard when it could have.

5) personally feel superior and vindicated that Microsoft's basic text editor changed newline terminators...

6) ... a program they don't even use ...

7) ... while in the same breath complaining about how everything should be like Linux and they've said so for years, but now it is that way it's also bad; "fuck you fuck everyone I was here before it was cool, I was angry that you didn't do it my way and now I'm angry that you are doing it my way".

8) while ignoring the elephant in the room that the "everything as text" OS with tools that "do one thing well" is completely incapable of handling both styles of line endings.

Is just a ridiculous situation.

> "doing everything they can to make using GIT on windows, an easy experience, and so forth and so on.."

What a terrible company, doing things to make users lives easier. Imagine if all the standard Linux tools could just handle common line endings. Python does, which demonstrates it's totally possible and mostly a non-issue. It could have been made to completely go away, but instead has become a source of Ego and Pride for the Linux fanatic, thinking people who use tools that deal with complexity and present it simply are inferior, instead of thinking that those tools are desirable and superior.

My personal opinion on WSL and other "Linux integration" tech in a nutshell. We MADE this world. How dare they try to domesticate it! How dare they take our ladders, pulling them up right after they are done building their monopolies!

> At this juncture - i don't even particularly like desktop computing, no matter the flavor. It's all frustrating in their own ways - including my precious Linux.

I don't even want to see a Year of the Linux Desktop any more. It's a dumpster fire. Serenity OS and Haiku deserve their own Year of the "X" Desktop far more than we do. The Linux can keep its Century of the Linux Server trophy instead. And it's not a consolation prize, but a real achievement.

I was thoroughly in the "screw Microsoft" camp until about 2018, when I thought they were on the way to redeeming themselves.

Unfortunately they've continued their prior "hatefully corporate ++" behavior. I bestow this term on companies like Oracle & SCO (remember them?). At this stage in my career, I have regularly been in a position to send a significant portion of comapny expenditure toward Microsoft. I won't be in future, and when I reach CTO/CIO I will continue to advocate for more open and fair solutions for my company.

> But F* windows and F* windows people in IT. The whole lot of em

Maybe leave the late 90s.