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0 pointsmmgutz4y ago0 comments

Don't think it's just about coolness.

In .NET there is usually one way to do things, the MS way. You don't have options. Whatever MS prescribes is practiced by most enterprise shops. I remember arguing for something closer to MVC (several open source solutions) when ASP.NET forms was the way to do things. It wasn't until ASP.NET MVC came out that enterprise shops came on board.

I still see a lot of documentation that shows Visual Studio screenshots. How am I supposed to do that on Linux? .NET still feels like a Windows first solution. You will not find official docs for Python, Node or Go using OS-specific IDE or editor screenshots.

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snorremd4y ago

I needed to learn dotnet for my new job, and I use MacOS and Linux when developing. Took a course on dotnet and entity framework, and when it came time to set up the database stuff of course both the tutorial and documentation on the official dotnet framework page showed instructions specifically for Visual Studio. Had to do some googling and reading GitHub issues to find the command line solution.

When the .Net Foundation was announcing that they were going to drop the hotreload support from dotnet watch in favour of supporting it in the Visual Studio editor I was again reminded of how (some parts of) MSFT think that dotnet should still be a fully integrated development platform for Windows, rather than a multi platform, open community and open source project. I guess there might be some internal power struggle there between various business interests.

There are already more Linux VMs on Azure than there are Windows VMs. And if they still insist on making the dotnet experience on Linux and MacOS subpar compared to Windows they will very quickly find that people who develop for these OSs will move towards Java or other languages and frameworks with better support for these operating systems.

DeathArrow4y ago

>In .NET there is usually one way to do things,

There are infinite ways to do things. But the most easier way to do things is one. And that is good because anyone can understand anyone's code.

mmgutzOP4y ago

There are many languages that are easier to follow than C#. Every import in Go or Node is explicit. You don't need an IDE to tell you which package a method originates from.

Anyway, my point is there are very legitimate reasons why most startups don't use .NET. And it rarely has anything to do with being cool.

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