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0 pointsNextgrid4y ago0 comments

> What's the cost of losing the entire on-prem database?

Backing up an on-prem DB doesn't require specialist DBA knowledge. Basic UNIX skills are enough. Not to mention, since you're not in the cloud, bandwidth or efficiency is not a concern - feel free to rsync your entire DB off to a backup server every 5 minutes.

> to hire a rock solid DBA? And how much does that DBA cost?

They didn't have a DBA here either, and this "cloud" didn't save them. But at least with an on-prem Postgres the worst they'd have is significantly reduced performance*, where as here they had a 5k bill.

*actually the price/performance ratio for bare-metal servers is so good that a 100$/month server would probably take their unindexed query and work totally fine (as a side effect of the entire working dataset being in the kernel's RAM-based IO cache).

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fabian2k4y ago

Rsyncing the database won't work in many cases, this doesn't ensure your backup is consistent. That is really, really dangerous advice, especially as you might not notice this if you test the process while the database is idle.

For Postgres you either use the pg-dump command and backup the dump or you setup WAL archiving and save base backups and the WAL files as they are created.

This isn't rocket science, but you really should read the manual at least once before doing this. Just copying the files is not the right way to backup a database (unless you really know what you're doing and are ensuring consistency in some other ways).

NextgridOP4y ago

I am not saying that rsync or cp is the right way to backup a DB, I was just giving a very crude example. I absolutely agree with the issues you're raising.

However, I'd still take recovering a DB that has been backed up by rsync/cp over a DB that's not been backed up at all. If you really can't be bothered to do it the right way, you're still better off doing something than running with no backups at all.

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