Hetzner Cloud Goes US (Ashburn/VA) (opens in new tab)

Interestingly, I have used racknerd.com from lowendbox.com deals and it works quite nicely for me. No hiccups.

They undercut linode/vultr guys like many other leb providers so you should try them as well. Leb has good deals for ultra low cost vps

How's the development velocity compared to Azure?

Can your App scale across regions?

> Compared to Azure VM instances, Hetzner offers like 100x more performance for each $ spent.

So much this. I can't stress enough how awesome of a deal are Hetzner Cloud's offerings. I've also been running a personal Docker Swarm cluster on Hetzner for the past two years and I couldn't be happier with the way it performs. And how refreshing it is to actually be able to predict and control costs, and have absolutely no worry in the world regarding what might pop up in the invoice. If only this was true for any other cloud provider.

They're saying:

> Hetzner's own team of technicians in Germany provides customer support for the Hetzner Cloud servers in both Europe and Ashburn, VA. See below "How do I contact support?" We hope to soon expand the hours for the support team, and we will make an announcement when this happens.

https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/#who-provid...

One can hope, otherwise I can see European customers move off Hetzner. We have a number of customers who do not want US staff to be able to access their servers and VMs.

If you setup the server in the EU why would anyone in US have access to it?

I think the main thing for GDPR is that US based employees should not have access to manage EU datacenters remotely.

NTT/RagingWire VA1.

Here's the details about the sea shipment that was sent from Hetzner Online GmbH in Germany to the US subsidiary: https://www.importgenius.com/importers/hetzner-us

Right now we're not offering any dedicated servers (as I wrote on another comment). That might change some time in the future depending on how well things go here. But I can't give a clear answer about whether or not we will introduce dedicated root servers, or an ETA. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Hi there - We are currently just focusing on the new location for cloud servers. Depending on how successfully things go there, we may consider adding other products in the future. But we will discuss that internally first before making any announcements. Sorry that I can't give you a firm yes or no answer. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online

Same, have been a happy Hetzner customer for 8+ years because they've consistently offered the best dedicated server pricing with essentially free (20TB) bandwidth.

Unfortunately they're only offering their "Cloud" hosting packages for the time being, so it'll be a while before they start offering dedicated servers.

Once they offer dedicated servers in US and a managed RDS service I can finally look at moving off AWS for most services. But it looks like Cloudflare will beat them to it as their CEO has mentioned they're already working on a managed DB service, hopefully it will be as cost-effective as their R2 pricing.

There has been a nice YT video recently showing how Hetzner operates their DC and their servers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eo8nz_niiM

Was quite surprised that they use custom built server racks with their own custom-made mainboards delivered by OEMs. They even have their own long-term Fan testing rigs and custom HDD failure check setups.

This. Cloud is everywhere nowadays, but most dedicated servers are outrageously expensive or have bandwidth limitations (I'm looking at you OVH). Servers on Hetzner's auction might be pushing 10 years, but who cares as long as they work just fine.

Their offerings are great. The best server for the money that I’ve found, though, is Netcup.

I’m glad to see a Hetzner DC in the US, though. I hope they shake up our ridiculously overpriced cloud offerings this side of the Atlantic.

Country of origin is not the sole reason we reject some orders. Most orders are rejected because of more than one red flag. We do have customers from "high-risk" countries. We also reject many European orders that appear to be fake, or that are far enough along the "possibly risky" scale. It is not a perfect art, but our team is constantly tinkering to improve our methods. We find that being overly cautious helps us to prevent abuse down the road. --Katie, Marketing Hetzner Online

Had the same issue trying to open an IBM cloud account recently. After submitting my CC info the system told me to get in touch via email, and after contacting them they wanted two official documents (Driver’s License and Passport) to be submitted via email. Big nope from me.

> For me, Hetzner .... are 2014-era startups

Huh? I'm pretty sure the first time I heard of Hetzner was almost a decade before that. Wikipedia says they were founded in 1997.

EDIT: Ok, I take it you mean they are like 2014-era startups? A quick Google search tells me, Starlink is the only one of them that could be dated to 2014. But IMO still a strange comparison. With their business model and history I wouldn't exactly call Hetzner a startup.

How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink?

I smell covert advertisement…

I changed my country on that page to US but all the prices still seem to be in euros?

It would be great if they let me see more detail about the instance types without having to sign up for an account. I'm not sure if I want to try it out, and I'm lazy, so I probably just won't now.

Great deal, I use OVH Starter VPS that is a fraction cheaper at $3.50 (same config) For testing and personal use I found both offers to be top-notches and only DC location could be a decision factor here

It's EUR not USD, looked like $5 showdown

That one is not available in the US though.

Hetzner is a fraction of the cost of AWS. A 8vcpu, 16GB RAM instance is 22€ on Hetzner cloud or $148 on AWS. If you have substantial egress traffic the difference becomes even more pronounced.

AWS has a bigger ecosystem of services, and due to AWS's traffic cost you can't cheaply mix-and-match things inside and outside their ecosystem. That's probably the biggest reason to go with EC2.

Aws bandwidth costs would be the primary reason to potentially switch.

If you're stuff is low bandwidth there is probably little reason to move. You might compare the cost tiers of the size of system you use. Might also be reasonable to run personal stuff on spot pricing on AWS for cost savings.

Mainly the price, Hetzner is much cheaper. But you don't get all the other features from AWS. So if you only need EC2 and EBS you should probably use Hetzner and will save a lot of money.

Hetzner is a privately owned company, so it's not possible to invest in it. The owner and founder Martin Hetzner is one of the CEOs and is heavily involved in the company. Like with anything, there's some pros and cons to being privately owned. It means our fans can't help us grow by investing in us. And it means we tend to open new locations very carefully, and perhaps more slowly than our competitors. But it also means that we are not beholden to any investors. So if the CEOs decide to re-invest lots of the profits back into the company, they don't have to worry about a board complaining about lower returns. --Katie

That's a good thing.

Besides, what is holding you back from setting up DNSSEC? It's not as if Hetzner doesn't support manually managing your DNSSEC-related records. Having your registrar manage your DNSSEC deployment kind of defeats the point.

Openstack: the API every customer wants, but a stack no CTO wants to deploy?

Hetzner has an API that is a lot less complicated than Openstack. It's not that big a deal to use it.