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0 pointseikenberry4y ago0 comments

They were talking about switching if they got more expensive and rsync.net is already a lot more expensive unless you have very little data (<300GB).

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Mister_Snuggles4y ago

rsync.net is a very different product though.

I recently evaluated a bunch of cloud storage/backup services. rsync.net is a ssh-accessible ZFS filesystem (including support for zfs send/recv) in the cloud, B2 is object storage.

rsync.net has a cheaper version aimed at people doing borg backups. Unfortunately it's still 3x the cost of B2 for 1TB of data.

eikenberryOP4y ago

I currently use B2 for my offsite backups, only around 1.5TB, using rclone. Works well and costs just under $7/mo.

I looked at rsync.net and really liked the idea, but costing 5x as much just doesn't justify the features.

Where do they offer the 3x cost solution? Cheapest pricing I can find is 2.5cents/GiB/mo (the 5x price).

iyn4y ago

You need to look at their pages for specific tools, e.g. for Borg Backup: https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html (starts from 1.5 Cents Per GB / Month)

m0zg4y ago

It's not just that. It's also that I don't really trust anything centralized anymore, and internet speeds are such that homegrown solutions are becoming more and more attractive. Another benefit is that I'll also be able to easily backup my Linux machines, which BB currently does not support. At the moment I just periodically copy data to windows on cron so that it's backed up - not ideal to say the least.

autarch4y ago

I back things up to Backblaze B2 from Linux using borg. It works really well and it's incredibly cheap. I'm paying less than $1/month to keep about 155GB of data there. About half the data is from Borg backups, the other is rcloned copies of my music files.

Mister_Snuggles4y ago

What's your process for backing up to B2 using borg?

I'm currently doing borg backups to a local server, then using restic to back up my borg backups to B2. My reason for using restic over rclone is so that if the local backup is corrupted I've got history on the remote to fall back to.

I'm hoping to find a less cumbersome way to do this.

ac294y ago

Why not just use restic directly to back up?

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eikenberryOP4y ago

Rclone only uploads/overrides the remote if the meta-data (size/date/etc) shows a difference. Most disk corruption doesn't change these so it still works as a corruption backup.

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autarch4y ago

Ah, looking more close, I'm just using rclone to put the backups on B2. So first I do a backup to a local drive, then I run `borg with-local ... rclone sync ...`.

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rexreed4y ago

What would happen if your backup harddrive at your friends' place was stolen / destroyed / went bad?

m0zg4y ago

I'd have to send him another hard drive, obviously.

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Mister_Snuggles4y ago

rsync.net is a very different product though.

I recently evaluated a bunch of cloud storage/backup services. rsync.net is a ssh-accessible ZFS filesystem (including support for zfs send/recv) in the cloud, B2 is object storage.

rsync.net has a cheaper version aimed at people doing borg backups. Unfortunately it's still 3x the cost of B2 for 1TB of data.

eikenberryOP4y ago

I currently use B2 for my offsite backups, only around 1.5TB, using rclone. Works well and costs just under $7/mo.

I looked at rsync.net and really liked the idea, but costing 5x as much just doesn't justify the features.

Where do they offer the 3x cost solution? Cheapest pricing I can find is 2.5cents/GiB/mo (the 5x price).

iyn4y ago

You need to look at their pages for specific tools, e.g. for Borg Backup: https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html (starts from 1.5 Cents Per GB / Month)

m0zg4y ago

autarch4y ago

Mister_Snuggles4y ago

What's your process for backing up to B2 using borg?

I'm hoping to find a less cumbersome way to do this.

ac294y ago

Why not just use restic directly to back up?

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eikenberryOP4y ago

Rclone only uploads/overrides the remote if the meta-data (size/date/etc) shows a difference. Most disk corruption doesn't change these so it still works as a corruption backup.

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autarch4y ago

Ah, looking more close, I'm just using rclone to put the backups on B2. So first I do a backup to a local drive, then I run `borg with-local ... rclone sync ...`.

1 more reply

rexreed4y ago

What would happen if your backup harddrive at your friends' place was stolen / destroyed / went bad?

m0zg4y ago

I'd have to send him another hard drive, obviously.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse