Ask HN: Take job adjacent to goals or go to get masters?

If the places you want to work at require higher technical skills, then getting a masters degree won’t help you achieve that. I don’t know why you would even consider going for your master’s at this point. Give 2 years of slave labor and take on massive debt just to get your name on a paper no one will ever read and stick your toe into various disciplines you’ll probably never revisit.

If you’re really set on data science then you will need a PhD to be competitive in that field. There are a small number of seats with many highly educated people trying to sit in them.

Don’t listen to the recruiter about why you didn’t get the engineering job. Recruiters are only useful for getting short-listed. They usually aren’t part of the hiring committee. The team probably just chose someone else with more working experience for less pay. You can never predict whether you’ll get an offer based on how you felt the interview went because you don’t know who else is interviewing and what rate they were submitted for.

Sorry if this advice sounds like a lot of “Don’ts.” The reason is because you’re doing mostly the right thing — hitting the pavement and maximizing your options. Keep doing that and eventually you’ll get an offer, ideally 2.

School will always be there but I think it is the better option if you can swing it financially you can find lots of interesting things to do and research projects etc... Take advantage of the opportunity the University program provides.

Yeah, fuck that. As someone on the hiring side in a tiny consultancy that builds machine learning products for enterprise, I like when someone has worked on a personal project that mattered to them, end to end, not some portfolio building bullshit where they strap a half-assed Flask app on top of a sklearn model. However, I won't tell them to focus on that and retry in 6 months, and if I really want them, I won't care: there's a trial period of 6 months where they get paid full-time salary. I mainly reject lazy, assholes, and people who have no curiosity. If they're an engineer and it takes them a full minute to get to their working directory, it tells me things I don't like.

We've hired 3rd year students with full-time employee contracts identical to everyone's. We're very flexible when they have to take exams or prepare or do homework. They work full-time only in the summer or during breaks. Our best hires were electrical engineers and physicists, even before I was involved with hiring (trained as an EE, taking bias into account).

Anyway, I'm on mobile that recently went through a factory reset. I have no idea how much you will be paid, but the field is in flux. It's the wild west out there and there's the emergence of MLOps, where every asshole is building a platform (we built one internally not to die that we now offer to others. Yes, I'm an ML platform building asshole; but an agreeable one). Joining a consultancy/small company allows you to define your role. Everything is to be done and someone ought to do it. You probably will be expected to do some things, but won't be prevented to do more things depending on the complexity you can take on. You can learn a lot in terms of pretty much everything, and can use it like a launchpad. Again, not knowing how much you're paid and your opportunity cost.

>The training program is 4 months in another country while getting paid (great!) but if you leave sooner than 2 years you have to pay back a large percentage of the salary you received during training (very odd to me).

Fuck that, as well. I think I've seen it in the energy sector where they spend a good chunk of money on each candidate and train them on proprietary tech flying them around.

You can find better, less stringent psychopathic. What are they going to teach you anyway ? How to train an sklearn model or something? You seem too balanced for that kind of cringe or to publish a thankful post on LinkedIn for the backpack, laptop, and CD-ROM they gave you and how much it means to you.

Look, you went to a good school and seem motivated. Just don't associate with psychos for now. Then, whether you do a masters or not, I have no input on that.