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0 pointsthaumasiotes4y ago0 comments

The allegation you quote is not an espionage allegation. It's saying that because this activist's Twitter account received unfavorable treatment from Twitter, we should assume that the unfavorable treatment of his account is evidence that Twitter is an arm of the Saudi government, and therefore the separate incident involving espionage must have happened with Twitter's cooperation or at least without Twitter's objection.

Note that the quoted allegation does not even allege any misconduct on Twitter's part! The only purpose is to ask you to draw an adverse inference about what Twitter was thinking when they became the victim of espionage.

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jkaplowitz4y ago· 3 in thread

I didn't say it was an espionage allegation. It's quite possibly not. The quote alleges complicity among other terms. I don't know if that's legally a type of misconduct - my guess is that the legal terms for both are more precise and this is just the press release version. But in everyday parlance, calling someone complicit does suggest some active form of inappropriate knowing participation in something bad. Not necessarily in espionage specifically.

thaumasiotesOP4y ago

> But in everyday parlance, calling someone complicit does suggest some active form of inappropriate knowing participation in something bad.

Let's say this guy's Twitter account was shut down because Mohammed bin Salman personally called Jack Dorsey and asked for a favor. That would be complicity, in shutting down the Twitter account. It would not be complicity in espionage.

jkaplowitz4y ago

Agreed. Nothing you are saying is contradicting anything I am saying, nor anything in the quote we're discussing.

I'm not sure why you're spending so much time to emphasize that the quote in the article doesn't allege espionage by Twitter when nobody is claiming it does, but indeed we are in full agreement that it doesn't. (Having not read the legal complaint itself, I express no opinion on what that alleges.)

thaumasiotesOP4y ago

You used that quote to support that claim that he is not basing his complaint on Twitter being a victim of espionage.

That claim is incorrect. Your quote does not state a cause of action against Twitter. Its only purpose, in the lawsuit, is to support, through innuendo, the claim that Twitter was complicit in an espionage "attack" against themselves. The complaint is based only on the espionage incident.

The quote is mostly irrelevant, which is the type of support you'd expect this complaint to be able to muster.

That's what I'm saying.

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