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0 pointsbillyruffian4y ago0 comments

> Now scotland has independent tax raising powers, the border with england for sea resources was carefully restruck to favour england

The maritime border used to be a straight east-west line despite the east coast of England being curved. In 1999 it was changed so that it followed established international maritime border conventions regarding distances from the mainland[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Adjacent_Waters_Bound...

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ggm4y ago

You believe the change was motivated purely by geographical norms? It was legal on geographical grounds but was obviously motivated on assets and revenue.

billyruffianOP4y ago

I don't believe anything without evidence. It seems like a reasonable piece of tidying up that settles the legal juristiction of vessels in those waters but I look forward to seeing the evidence that it was a spiteful landgrab (watergrab?) so I can adjust my beliefs.

On balance, the maritime border appears to me to have been restruck to be fair.

ggm4y ago

Here's a BBC piece from 2013: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20042...

Here's a 2001 legal review from glasgow Caledonia university which obviously favours Scottish interests: https://academic.oup.com/ejil/article/12/1/77/359040?login=t...

Here's closing remarks from the SNP on a parliamentary debate, that shows the predominant driving factor was fisheries, and (if you read the rest of the debate) suggests a lot of confusion about what was being discussed and why): https://www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2000-04-26.9.0#g58.1

Here's two extremely partisan takes by a pro Indy scot who claims to have previously negotiated sea boundary changes. What's interesting is the "northward drift" : https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/scotlands-st...

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/01/scotlandengl...

billyruffianOP4y ago

Thank you for taking the time to do that and I know we are drifting massively off-topic. The blogs posts fail the PROMPT test for me but the Zahraa, 2001 paper is much more interesting and makes a decent case that this isn't a settled issue and it probably should be sooner rather than later.

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ggm4y ago

You believe the change was motivated purely by geographical norms? It was legal on geographical grounds but was obviously motivated on assets and revenue.

billyruffianOP4y ago

On balance, the maritime border appears to me to have been restruck to be fair.

ggm4y ago

Here's a BBC piece from 2013: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20042...

Here's a 2001 legal review from glasgow Caledonia university which obviously favours Scottish interests: https://academic.oup.com/ejil/article/12/1/77/359040?login=t...

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/01/scotlandengl...

billyruffianOP4y ago

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