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0 pointsunethical_ban4y ago0 comments

No one in IT should have access to business data. That's simply best practice. Worst case would be a database engineer who has access to backups or some prod data for troubleshooting, and even that should be under tight control with good access accounting.

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hamburglar4y ago

Welcome to devops. Ask Mike down the hall to add you to the “admin” group. Tell him you’re a new dev so you need everything.

(This is a joke but also, at many companies, it’s not. Twitch was once small and grew. Who knows what ancient all-access switches are still critical to running the systems, marked “tech debt” in someone’s backlog)

unethical_banOP4y ago

The whole point of devops is to automate everything according to best practices, so fuckups are a thing of the past! The only fuckups, of course, will be Terraform state issues.

syshum4y ago

No the whole point of devops is to get rid of those terrible sysadmins always keeping the devs from doing anything...

Once you have "DevOps" the devs are ops, your head count drops, and all that pesky security and other things those dirty sysadmins wanted are gone

kinda /s sometimes I think that is really want managers think about devops

hamburglar4y ago

As it turns out, the entire industry doesn't quite agree on "the whole point of devops."

cube004y ago

Until the business raises a priority one incident that their monthly reports are not looking right and you need to dive into the data to find out why some other API back end decided to present its numbers this month divided by 1000 for ease of display to their own users.

I know, I know, service contacts but my point is sometimes engineers need at least temporary access to provide support at times.

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hamburglar4y ago

Welcome to devops. Ask Mike down the hall to add you to the “admin” group. Tell him you’re a new dev so you need everything.

unethical_banOP4y ago

The whole point of devops is to automate everything according to best practices, so fuckups are a thing of the past! The only fuckups, of course, will be Terraform state issues.

syshum4y ago

No the whole point of devops is to get rid of those terrible sysadmins always keeping the devs from doing anything...

Once you have "DevOps" the devs are ops, your head count drops, and all that pesky security and other things those dirty sysadmins wanted are gone

kinda /s sometimes I think that is really want managers think about devops

hamburglar4y ago

As it turns out, the entire industry doesn't quite agree on "the whole point of devops."

cube004y ago

I know, I know, service contacts but my point is sometimes engineers need at least temporary access to provide support at times.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse