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0 pointsdreamcompiler4y ago0 comments

Munro sat down with Musk and enthusiastically praised FSD but complained about how roads were often improperly painted. Musk--to his credit--said the car needed to work safely even in the presence of paint errors. (Video is on Munro's YT channel.) Munro is very critical of many aspects of car design; I cannot understand why he's such a fan of FSD.

I tried FSD on the $200/month plan and dropped it: It makes the car unsafe. To command a lane change you hold down the turn signal stalk. If you fail to hold it down long enough the car suddenly swerves back to the lane it was in. This is (to say the least) disconcerting at 80 mph.

FSD can also suddenly decide to do weird things that are difficult to correct even when you're paying close attention. It's unnerving. Ordinary autosteer (which is included with every Tesla at no extra charge) works well enough for me and it fails in more predictable ways; it's easy for me to build a mental model of its limitations. I'll stick with that.

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lastofthemojito4y ago

> Munro is very critical of many aspects of car design; I cannot understand why he's such a fan of FSD.

Maybe due to personal profit?

https://old.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/kxj0or/twitter_s...

gamblor9564y ago

TLDR: Munro admits to owning a bunch of Tesla stock, and there is a drastic change in his opinions of Tesla before he owned Tesla stock vs after.

mikestew4y ago

there is a drastic change in his opinions of Tesla before he owned Tesla stock vs after.

I'm confident that this would apply to just about anyone that has ever bought, and then sold, Tesla stock. Because, and I don't mean to overstate the obvious, if one's opinion didn't change then why sell the stock?

nomel4y ago

Or, perhaps there is a drastic change in his stock ownership after his opinions changed.

leesec4y ago

>I tried FSD on the $200/month plan and dropped it: It makes the car unsafe. To command a lane change you hold down the turn signal stalk. If you fail to hold it down long enough the car suddenly swerves back to the lane it was in. This is (to say the least) disconcerting at 80 mph.

This isn't true. You just tap the stalk down until it clicks. Sometimes if it detects issues in the other lane it will not complete the lane change and go back into your existing lane. But you do not have to hold it down the whole time.

justapassenger4y ago

> Munro is very critical of many aspects of car design; I cannot understand why he's such a fan of FSD.

Because he doesn’t understand it and thinks it’s magic. He has not much clue about modern tech and is just buying into the hype.

moduspol4y ago

> I tried FSD on the $200/month plan and dropped it: It makes the car unsafe. To command a lane change you hold down the turn signal stalk. If you fail to hold it down long enough the car suddenly swerves back to the lane it was in. This is (to say the least) disconcerting at 80 mph.

That's not quite accurate. Unrelated to autopilot / FSD, you can do a small press on the turn signal and it will signal three times and then stop signaling. You can also push all the way down and it will signal until you turn it off. You don't have to hold it down.

FSD will only continue switching lanes while the turn signal is on, so if you do a small press down, you may see the behavior you described.

dreamcompilerOP4y ago

To clarify I'm talking about a lane change initiated by me rather than merely allowing one recommended by the car. The latter only requires a brief flick of the turn signal stalk.

But the former required me to actively hold it down for several seconds--much longer than a full turn signal would require. I had to hold it down until the car was completely within the stripes of the adjacent lane or the car would immediately swerve back into the original lane. I tested it many times on a traffic-free road. Might have been a setting; I don't know.

johnsimer4y ago

Interesting. Either way I only have to tap the stalk down.

texasbigdata4y ago

Had the opposite experience on a testdrive purposely (within reason) trying to see if it would merge into a lane that subsequently had a merging onramp with a car resulting in the blindspot likely needing to move in.

Was super impressed it seemed to over correct and be thoughtful about consequences a few seconds down the road.

Anecdote though.

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lastofthemojito4y ago

> Munro is very critical of many aspects of car design; I cannot understand why he's such a fan of FSD.

Maybe due to personal profit?

https://old.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/kxj0or/twitter_s...

gamblor9564y ago

TLDR: Munro admits to owning a bunch of Tesla stock, and there is a drastic change in his opinions of Tesla before he owned Tesla stock vs after.

mikestew4y ago

there is a drastic change in his opinions of Tesla before he owned Tesla stock vs after.

nomel4y ago

Or, perhaps there is a drastic change in his stock ownership after his opinions changed.

leesec4y ago

justapassenger4y ago

> Munro is very critical of many aspects of car design; I cannot understand why he's such a fan of FSD.

Because he doesn’t understand it and thinks it’s magic. He has not much clue about modern tech and is just buying into the hype.

moduspol4y ago

> I tried FSD on the $200/month plan and dropped it: It makes the car unsafe. To command a lane change you hold down the turn signal stalk. If you fail to hold it down long enough the car suddenly swerves back to the lane it was in. This is (to say the least) disconcerting at 80 mph.

FSD will only continue switching lanes while the turn signal is on, so if you do a small press down, you may see the behavior you described.

dreamcompilerOP4y ago

To clarify I'm talking about a lane change initiated by me rather than merely allowing one recommended by the car. The latter only requires a brief flick of the turn signal stalk.

johnsimer4y ago

Interesting. Either way I only have to tap the stalk down.

texasbigdata4y ago

Was super impressed it seemed to over correct and be thoughtful about consequences a few seconds down the road.

Anecdote though.

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