In that spirit let's start with the thing I agree with here. I actually agree that people shouldn't jump on the "antisemitic" labeling. In that you're correct. We need to separate misinformation and antisemitism which are different things. In fact the right wing in Israel claims Berni Sanders (a Jew) is anti-Israel. Which IMHO is insane.
So a few things are problematic in what you said.
Stolen land - not exactly. Israel was originally settled by Jews up until 2000 years ago when the Romans kicked Jews out. That's settled history. Jews returned over the years especially after the holocaust to a land occupied by the Turks and later on the British. Jews were granted a part of today's Israel by the UN as the British left... So far so good. No steal. There was a war immediately after due to dissatisfaction over the division mostly from the arab side. The war was "won" by the Jews (despite great bloodshed) and Israel was formed. I'll skip ahead despite many "dirty" attempts over the years. In 1967 all countries surrounding Israel ganged up to destroy it. All were much larger in terms of population and funding. Israel took a bold preemptive strike and won extra land in 6 days. Effectively beating armies double in size. None of that is stealing.
Now you can be talking about the west bank or Gaza. Here Israel made a mistake of starting with settlements. I agree that was stupid. But it isn't stealing. Israel has a peace treaty with Jordan from whom it got the west bank and with Egypt to whom it returned the Sini desert and other huge territories. They don't want Gaza back.
Israel tried to give the Palestinian people a country on multiple occasions only to be met by bombing and in-ability to compromise from the Palestinian side. There were multiple opportunities along the way to give the territories to the Palestinian people which were rejected by their leaders. Notice that there was never an independent Palestinian country. It was always owned by other countries so Israel never "stole" it. I'm not saying it's innocent. Not by a longshot but calling it stolen... Not accurate.
Oppression - yes. I actually agree that the occupation created a bad situation all around. This sucks for both sides with bombings, missiles etc. Unfortunately you can't wave a magic wand to stop this and Israel can't "just leave" as we saw in Afghanistan things can get WAY worse. In fact when Israel left Gaza the Hamas terrorist organization took over and did mass executions. The life of people there is much worse than it was before.
Worldwide lobby apparatus is a bit much (and that does ring antisemitic even if you didn't meant that). Yes there's lobbying but it exists on both sides with Palestinian victim hood also playing along.
Jeez no choice but to join the antisemites, ok man...
Examples: Musicians, a vegan chief, a few others, radicalized themselves up to hating EVERYTHING they relied on and used their whole life. Suddenly, the public social & health systems are bad (but they still want to use them), the government want to kill children with masks or vaccine (is it like that?), everyone's is a lier.. and so forth..
If one look deeper in that, one will see, that actually, they are earning a lot of money, which comes from the "believers".
Or, there was a incident last week, a 20y old boy was shot in the head as a sign of the protest against masks - just because he told the killer to wear a mask and it's mandatory in shops.
All hate need to be punished as hard as possible. The one's hating should be rejected by the society at the highest levels. No chances should be given.
It doesn't have to do anything with freedom of speech, when the speech is against a certain group or directed to individuals or is intended to destabilize something.
That's why we have wars, competition among nations, Putin & Trump, Nazis and ultraright & ultraleft parties.
The same can be applied to Israel as a country ruled by the ultraconservatives (who hate against others), to Palestine (who are not willing to arrange things and instead are openly saying, Israel must be diminished and have no right for existence), to the US and other supporters of the current politics, and Russia & Iran, Arabia, China.
We should all rejected that and do our best to mute the hate. The ones who don't understand that, are already part of the game :)
KEEP YOUR POINTS! I DONT CARE XDDDD New Account is made faster than you click. Angry white men who can't stand nothing
HATE IS EVERYWHERE! I think it's possible to see, who does downvote - the ones can see it, should do the same with the trumpists. Better world will be the loan.
hide your kids, hide your wife - the downvoters are here, but clicking in the background.
Bye, enjoy the feeling xD
