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0 pointsmbesto4y ago0 comments

> Literally no one paid that rate in the US.

Literally they did.

In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.

Over the next three decades, the top federal income tax rate remained high, never dipping below 70 percent.

https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Free_Resources/Federal-Inco...

Note the parent said "marginal" tax rate.

> During that period the government captured ~17-18% of GDP in taxes which is the post war average.

Even if the 17~18% of GDP is true (not saying it isn't, just dont have time to verify), it's very likely the highest tax bracket had way fewer people than it does today, so it would be equivalent of taxing earners of $100M/year in today's world. Weighing against GDP total negates increases in spending by the government to provide services that spur economies / provide benefits / etc. Point is - this figure is irrelevant and doesn't normalize the discussion.

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ch4s34y ago

No, no one really really did practically[1]. There are ways to capture more revenue, but it usually involves a VAT. Other methods historically cause economic contraction which lowers tax receipts. It’s important to be realistic about what policy can practically accomplish.

[1] https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-on-the-rich-1950s-not-high/

mbestoOP4y ago

Marginal tax != effective tax[0]

Yes they literally did. Your article says exactly what I said:

The 91 percent bracket of 1950 only applied to households with income over $200,000 (or about $2 million in today’s dollars). Only a small number of taxpayers would have had enough income to fall into the top bracket – fewer than 10,000 households, according to an article in The Wall Street Journal. Many households in the top 1 percent in the 1950s probably did not fall into the 91 percent bracket to begin with.

You need to understand the difference between marginal tax and effective tax. What you're referring to is effective tax. The parent very explicitly said marginal tax.

[0] - https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/marginal-and-avera...

ch4s34y ago

The Saez paper points out that even among the 0.01% people were avoiding that top rate.

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0 pointsmbesto4y ago0 comments

> Literally no one paid that rate in the US.

Literally they did.

In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.

Over the next three decades, the top federal income tax rate remained high, never dipping below 70 percent.

https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Free_Resources/Federal-Inco...

Note the parent said "marginal" tax rate.

> During that period the government captured ~17-18% of GDP in taxes which is the post war average.

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ch4s34y ago

[1] https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-on-the-rich-1950s-not-high/

mbestoOP4y ago

Marginal tax != effective tax[0]

Yes they literally did. Your article says exactly what I said:

You need to understand the difference between marginal tax and effective tax. What you're referring to is effective tax. The parent very explicitly said marginal tax.

[0] - https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/marginal-and-avera...

ch4s34y ago

The Saez paper points out that even among the 0.01% people were avoiding that top rate.

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