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0 pointsImPostingOnHN4y ago0 comments

you've twice said "most people" don't view the "fire in a theater" analogy to be a limitation on a right,

yet here I am, one of those people, telling you that yes, I do indeed view it as one

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dragonwriter4y ago· 1 in thread

> you've twice said "most people" don't view the "fire in a theater" analogy to be a limitation on a right,

No, I haven't.

In fact, I’ve said nothing in this thread about that analogy (and nothing at all about it, IIRC, on HN except [in summary form] that it has fuck-all to do with the actual law, either now or when it originally appeared as dicta in an abomination of a decision.)

Nor have I said anything about what “most people” view as a “limitation” on a right. What I’ve said is about that most people who support a given law that others characterize as an “infringement” of the right do bot view it as an infringement, but as an act outside the scope of the meaning of the right.

> yet here I am, one of those people

Even if literally everything you said preceding this wasn't false, “one” ≠ “most”, except in a particular degenerate case where it is also “all”.

ImPostingOnHNOP4y ago

so far, of the data you've presented plus the data we see here, the sample size is 1, me, and 100% of respondents disagree with your proposition, so it's unclear where you are getting "most" from -- but let's ignore all that and grant you the point for now

if I am understanding you correctly, you are saying there is a difference between society viewing something as outside the boundaries of a right, versus society viewing something as an allowed, permitted-by-society infringement on a right

if we assume that is true, then what are the implications to OP's post?

e.g. the vaccination mandate can be presented as either "outside the boundaries of the right" for whatever right those protesting the mandate cite, or an allowed, permitted-by-society infringement on that right

so what's the difference?

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