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0 pointsgruez4y ago0 comments

>There's a difference: Amazon can pay more. As you said, the millennials can't. Just like it's Amazon's choice to live with a driver shortage if they can pay more but won't.

But GP was talking about "any shortage", not just amazon's shortage. For the sake of argument I'll let that slide. I'm sure millennials can pay more. It just would involve uncomfortable sacrifices, and most people don't think that's not worth the trade-off for going from renting to owning. Likewise, amazon would like more delivery drivers, but isn't desperate enough to actually raise wages and/or improve working conditions.

>Based on their 2020 profits, they can pay more. $20B in profits, 170,000 deliverers worldwide. They could take 10% of that and pay those folks an average of about $10,000 more/year.

You forgot to include the cost of capital.

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vidarh4y ago

> But GP was talking about "any shortage", not just amazon's shortage.

And followed it by arguing they could just raise wages, which makes it clear the "any" is within the context of at least talking about employers, and quite likely specifically talking about Amazon

You're being obtuse.

> Likewise, amazon would like more delivery drivers, but isn't desperate enough to actually raise wages and/or improve working conditions.

In other words, they've made a choice.

gruezOP4y ago

>And followed it by arguing they could just raise wages

>In other words, they've made a choice.

Did you skip the rest of the comment about how millennials can pay more, but choose not to?

vidarh4y ago

Yes, I skipped it because it had no relevance whatsoever to the point of the original comment you replied to, because, as I pointed out, it's clear from context that it talked about Amazon's shortage, not any general form of shortage.

My reply above made that clear, so again you're being obtuse.

ineedasername4y ago

You forgot to include the cost of capital.

No, that's why I included the stipulation "if their business suffers at all as a result of too few drivers"

Sure, they're not going to pay drivers more if those increased costs exceed the losses they'd suffer from a delivery shortage.

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vidarh4y ago

> But GP was talking about "any shortage", not just amazon's shortage.

And followed it by arguing they could just raise wages, which makes it clear the "any" is within the context of at least talking about employers, and quite likely specifically talking about Amazon

You're being obtuse.

> Likewise, amazon would like more delivery drivers, but isn't desperate enough to actually raise wages and/or improve working conditions.

In other words, they've made a choice.

gruezOP4y ago

>And followed it by arguing they could just raise wages

>In other words, they've made a choice.

Did you skip the rest of the comment about how millennials can pay more, but choose not to?

vidarh4y ago

My reply above made that clear, so again you're being obtuse.

ineedasername4y ago

You forgot to include the cost of capital.

No, that's why I included the stipulation "if their business suffers at all as a result of too few drivers"

Sure, they're not going to pay drivers more if those increased costs exceed the losses they'd suffer from a delivery shortage.

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