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0 pointsistingray4y ago0 comments

Yeah super bizarre. A few weeks in, has anyone seen a good take on it being local besides the "it's because ECEE is coming" fanfic? Like why not do this in the cloud. Leave my device out of it.

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NoPicklez4y ago· 2 in thread

Actually no sorry, upon checking iCloud data is E2E including both in transit and at rest. So it might be the only way in which Apple can do any scanning.

0xy4y ago

iCloud is not E2E, unless you consider "end-to-law-enforcement-to-end" E2E. [1]

In fact, Apple were going to do this but caved under pressure from law enforcement.

Imagine being an Apple engineer having joined a "privacy company" and then being forced to desecrate your users privacy in innumerable ways.

[1] https://www.howtogeek.com/710509/apples-imessage-is-secure.....

commoner4y ago

Apple's help page does not say that iCloud is E2EE, with the exception of certain services listed under the "End-to-end encrypted data" section:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

The E2EE data includes Messages in iCloud (if iCloud Backup is disabled) and iCloud Keychain, but not Photos or iCloud Drive.

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