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0 pointsoblio4y ago0 comments

My problem with this "we just have to wait N units of time" approach is: what do we do instead meanwhile?

What's the alternative?

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346794y ago

3.2 serious outcomes per 100,000 infections.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

oblioOP4y ago

Hey, cherry picker, how is your business going?

> and the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in <<the under-60 crowd>> (3.2 per 100,000)

346794y ago

>the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category

So .18% for the most at-risk portion of the unvaccinated. This is the latest data on Delta from the most vaccinated country in the world.

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sharken4y ago

That's the hard part, I'm all for giving the vaccine to all who wants it.

And at the same time not forcing everyone to take the vaccine.

As an example Denmark will reach about 75% vaccinated without any mandates, though a Corona passport will be in effect until October 2021.

That is one of the better ways of handling it in my opinion.

oblioOP4y ago

The thing is, I don't think there's any democratic country where there's an actual "vaccine mandate". Nobody there is forcing anyone to get vaccinated. It's done through "Corona passports".

And on top of that, countries like Denmark have much higher levels of social trust than countries like the US.

ghaff4y ago

While at least generally true, requiring to go into many workplaces (and therefore stay employed) and many other indoor locations is pretty close to a mandate if widely implemented. I'm not saying I disagree with doing this, but it gets close to forcing people in all but name.

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346794y ago

3.2 serious outcomes per 100,000 infections.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628...

oblioOP4y ago

Hey, cherry picker, how is your business going?

> and the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in <<the under-60 crowd>> (3.2 per 100,000)

346794y ago

>the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category

So .18% for the most at-risk portion of the unvaccinated. This is the latest data on Delta from the most vaccinated country in the world.

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sharken4y ago

That's the hard part, I'm all for giving the vaccine to all who wants it.

And at the same time not forcing everyone to take the vaccine.

As an example Denmark will reach about 75% vaccinated without any mandates, though a Corona passport will be in effect until October 2021.

That is one of the better ways of handling it in my opinion.

oblioOP4y ago

The thing is, I don't think there's any democratic country where there's an actual "vaccine mandate". Nobody there is forcing anyone to get vaccinated. It's done through "Corona passports".

And on top of that, countries like Denmark have much higher levels of social trust than countries like the US.

ghaff4y ago

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