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0 pointscvwright4y ago0 comments

The implication -- and I think it's a valid one -- is that this client-side mechanism will be very quickly co-opted to also alert on non-CSAM material. For example, Winnie the Pooh memes in China.

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zepto4y ago

I think it’s not valid to claim that it will be quickly used for that purpose.

However I absolutely agree that it could be used to detect non-CSAM images if Apple colludes with that use case.

My point is that this is immaterial to what is going on in China. China is already an authoritarian surveillance state. Even without this, the state has access to the iCloud photo servers in China, so who knows what they are doing, with or without Apple’s cooperation.

Maakuth4y ago

You can label it collusion, but when Apple does it, it's going to call it _complying with local regulation_.

zepto4y ago

It doesn’t matter what you label it. Hand wringing over making things worse in China is not a valid concern.

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0 pointscvwright4y ago0 comments

The implication -- and I think it's a valid one -- is that this client-side mechanism will be very quickly co-opted to also alert on non-CSAM material. For example, Winnie the Pooh memes in China.

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zepto4y ago

I think it’s not valid to claim that it will be quickly used for that purpose.

However I absolutely agree that it could be used to detect non-CSAM images if Apple colludes with that use case.

Maakuth4y ago

You can label it collusion, but when Apple does it, it's going to call it _complying with local regulation_.

zepto4y ago

It doesn’t matter what you label it. Hand wringing over making things worse in China is not a valid concern.

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