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0 pointssofixa4y ago0 comments

> And we're talking about the UK with no right of free speech

Come on now, no need to exaggerate. The UK has limits on free speech, as do most countries ( even the holier than thou US, if I'm not mistaken). You might consider them to be too much, but that doesn't mean there's no right of free speech.

In the example you're quoting, you're aware that the restrictions were on the political wing of what was basically a terrorist organisation ( IRA) with which the UK was in what was basically a (civil) war?

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pjc504y ago

> there's no right of free speech

I mean there's no encoded, constitutional right that cannot be superceded by ordinary legislation. There is the ECHR right to free speech, which has qualifications, but there is constant muttering from the Tory party about repealing ECHR. Which can be done by ordinary legislation.

> In the example you're quoting, you're aware that the restrictions were on the political wing of what was basically a terrorist organisation ( IRA) with which the UK was in what was basically a (civil) war?

Yes, I literally said that in my comment.

sofixaOP4y ago

> I mean there's no encoded, constitutional right that cannot be superceded by ordinary legislation. There is the ECHR right to free speech, which has qualifications, but there is constant muttering from the Tory party about repealing ECHR. Which can be done by ordinary legislation.

So there is a right, which might get repealed some day by ordinary legislation with ordinary quorum. But it's still there.

> Yes, I literally said that in my comment.

There's a slight difference between "links to a terrorist organisation", which is pretty vague and can mean lots of things, to literally the political wing of a terrorist group.

pjc504y ago

Yes, but that's a strong contrast with the US, where he was invited to speak.

foldr4y ago

He wasn’t trying to blow stuff up in the US, though.

It’s also inaccurate to describe Gerry Adams as an “opposition politician”. The opposition in British politics is the largest party opposing the government, and has a semi-official status. Adams was not in the Labour party and never even attended Parliament. So to British ears, it’s very misleading to say that there was a TV ban on an opposition politician.

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pjc504y ago

> there's no right of free speech

Yes, I literally said that in my comment.

sofixaOP4y ago

So there is a right, which might get repealed some day by ordinary legislation with ordinary quorum. But it's still there.

> Yes, I literally said that in my comment.

There's a slight difference between "links to a terrorist organisation", which is pretty vague and can mean lots of things, to literally the political wing of a terrorist group.

pjc504y ago

Yes, but that's a strong contrast with the US, where he was invited to speak.

foldr4y ago

He wasn’t trying to blow stuff up in the US, though.

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