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0 pointsflohofwoe4y ago0 comments

This only started with the iPhone. Apple has been around much longer and was a regular computer company before which treated their users like adults.

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whywhywhywhy4y ago· 2 in thread

Imagine for a moment you're an Apple exec who gets to see real usage numbers and revenue numbers per platform and is on board with the current company belief system.

You see MacOS devices completely dwarfed in both users and profit per user by iOS devices.

As that executive, who keep in mind probably doesn't share your opinions on open technology or they would never have got into that position. What decisions would you be making on the direction of their platforms.

I can't help but think we're only going one way and it's not towards something more open.

orangecat4y ago

Exactly. Apple executives threw macOS under the bus in the Epic trial, saying that its capability to run arbitrary software makes it unacceptably insecure (e.g. https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/19/22444353/mac-malware-not-...). It shouldn't surprise anyone if a future macOS version requires a paid developer certificate to run unapproved apps or access the Unix layer.

judge20204y ago

MacOS is indeed unacceptably insecure. Imagine someone downloads FortniteForMac.app (as in, a fake Fortnite for MacOS download since it's not available except on Windows right now) - that can lead to a keylogger and clipboard watcher beaming your data to some foreign data lake, where it'll soon be used to sign into your Bank (proxying requests to your computer to appear less suspicious, of course).

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tl4y ago

The Apple II enabled expansion and the creation of (for the time, amazing) software like VisiCalc. Starting with the original Macintosh, Apple has had a continuous tug-of-war over whether "creative freedom" is better than a "curated experience". iPhone give the "curated experience" side an unprecedented amount of ammunition for their side. Malware apps like Facebook continue to feed that side.

You can see it in the back and forth dance on the Mac. Will Apple ruin it by closing down too much? Time will tell.

userbinator4y ago

Apple has been trying to take control of users ever since the original Macintosh with its attitude of hiding things from them.

DOS came with a debugger that let you modify and create your own software. The Mac didn't.

Planned obsolescence was also not something new --- the infamous Lisa was designed with clock hardware and software that couldn't make it past 1995, for a machine released in 1983. (The PC AT, from 1984, has an RTC that went to at least 2000, and is still a design in use today.)

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